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Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"?
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

A person (non-chemist) came to me, apparently from a pharmacy
department of another university looking for a synonym of "hydrochloric
carbinol"? I asked if he knew the formula, he said "No". Though the
name seems to be either obsolete or meaningless, was this name known to
older organic chemists?
Could somebody kindly verify if this is a spelling problem or this
compound name is absurd?

Google is of no help here.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

faroo...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
A person (non-chemist) came to me, apparently from a pharmacy
department of another university looking for a synonym of
"hydrochloric
carbinol"? I asked if he knew the formula, he said "No". Though the
name seems to be either obsolete or meaningless, was this name known
to
older organic chemists?
Could somebody kindly verify if this is a spelling problem or this
compound name is absurd?

Google is of no help here.
Thanks.

carbinol is the old name for methanol ... and many compounds used that
designation ... for the C-OH group ... like butyl carbinol which is
really 1-pentanol and methyl propyl carbinol is 2-pentanol and diethyl
carbinol which is 3 pentanol ...
Hydrochloric carbinol to me is a solution of HCl in methanol ... though
I've never heard it expressed like that ...
There's also carbitol ... but Hydrochloric carbitol makes even less
sense ...
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Marvin
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

farooq_w@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
A person (non-chemist) came to me, apparently from a pharmacy
department of another university looking for a synonym of "hydrochloric
carbinol"? I asked if he knew the formula, he said "No". Though the
name seems to be either obsolete or meaningless, was this name known to
older organic chemists?
Could somebody kindly verify if this is a spelling problem or this
compound name is absurd?

Google is of no help here.
Thanks.

Have you tried the Merck Index?
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ian.kirker@gmail.com
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Joined: 17 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

number6 wrote:
Quote:
carbinol is the old name for methanol ... and many compounds used
that
designation ... for the C-OH group ... like butyl carbinol which is
really 1-pentanol and methyl propyl carbinol is 2-pentanol and
diethyl
carbinol which is 3 pentanol ...
Hydrochloric carbinol to me is a solution of HCl in methanol ...
though
I've never heard it expressed like that ...
There's also carbitol ... but Hydrochloric carbitol makes even less
sense ...

It seems possible they could mean the rather unstable formyl chloride.
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Attila the Bum
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

number6 wrote:
Quote:
faroo...@hotmail.com wrote:
A person (non-chemist) came to me, apparently from a pharmacy
department of another university looking for a synonym of
"hydrochloric
carbinol"? I asked if he knew the formula, he said "No". Though the
name seems to be either obsolete or meaningless, was this name
known
to
older organic chemists?
Could somebody kindly verify if this is a spelling problem or this
compound name is absurd?

Google is of no help here.
Thanks.

carbinol is the old name for methanol ... and many compounds used
that
designation ... for the C-OH group ... like butyl carbinol which is
really 1-pentanol and methyl propyl carbinol is 2-pentanol and
diethyl
carbinol which is 3 pentanol ...
Hydrochloric carbinol to me is a solution of HCl in methanol ...
though
I've never heard it expressed like that ...
There's also carbitol ... but Hydrochloric carbitol makes even less
sense ...

GOOGLE: "carbinol HCl" 4 hits.

A nsec read suggests good hits.


Atty (... causes blindness, as it brightens
teeth and freshens your breath |-)
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number6
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

ian.kirker@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
number6 wrote:
carbinol is the old name for methanol ... and many compounds used
that
designation ... for the C-OH group ... like butyl carbinol which is
really 1-pentanol and methyl propyl carbinol is 2-pentanol and
diethyl
carbinol which is 3 pentanol ...
Hydrochloric carbinol to me is a solution of HCl in methanol ...
though
I've never heard it expressed like that ...
There's also carbitol ... but Hydrochloric carbitol makes even less
sense ...

It seems possible they could mean the rather unstable formyl
chloride.


Maybe ... but even the less stable (if not just transient)
Chloromethanol which would be consistent with the naming conventions
using carbinol ...
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Is there something called "hydrochloric carbinol"? Reply with quote

Perhaps it's just acidified methanol (HCl in methanol), this is a
commonly used solution and it is sold by chemical suppliers.
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