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NunYa Bidness
science forum addict
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:31:53 -0400, "Me" <me@place.com> Gave us:
| Quote: | Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody s**t what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
You're a retard. |
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Androcles
science forum Guru
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Posts: 2714
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:433C36C5.EF6CE623@hate.spam.net...
So the Chinese told you to f*** off. Who can blame them?
Psychotic ineducable boring spammer (Alan Schwartz),
the royal fuckwit, "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:421CA8D5.202258D0@hate.spam.net...
| Quote: | Why are you having so much trouble with basic algebra?
Let L_1 = distance light travels in going from Sam to Joe, as
measured in the stationary frame.
1) L_1 = cL/(c-v)
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What a right royal stooopid m**********r.
See the peeing puppy moortel, he'll not be glad to add
you to his list of truly IMMORTAL fumbles. I will, though.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a turtle to
travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
[quote]
For velocities greater than that of a turtle our deliberations become
meaningless; we shall, however, find in what follows, that the velocity
of a turtle in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely
great velocity.
[quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Nothing can go faster than a turtle.
Oops!... Did I say 'a turtle'? Sorry...'light'.
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Uncle Al
science forum Guru
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 1226
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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Me wrote:
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Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody s**t what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
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Then you won't get any D2O. Physical reality is Uncle Al's ally, and
a powerful ally it is. Pookie pookie, sweatheart. Eat s**t and die.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Are ya gonna get it from Alfa or Acros? Aldrich bought the ISOTEC
isotope separation plant. You could burn deuterium gas. Aldrich
sells it. You could run commercial H2 through ten thousand stages of
hot Pd/Ag membranes. You could go to Canada and suck off the Bruce
heavy water plant in Ontario. Follow the smell of rotten eggs. The
production of a single pound of heavy water requires 340,000 pounds of
feed water. Same ratio in kilograms.
Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage heavy
water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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hanson
science forum Guru
Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 793
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:45 am Post subject:
Eotvoes or How to make D2O at home?
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:433C8154.3E9DDF4D@hate.spam.net...
| Quote: | Me wrote to Al:
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody any s**t what to do.
[Al]
Then you won't get any D2O. Eat s**t and die.
Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage
heavy water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
[hanson] |
ahahaha.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... this is too much... ahahaha...
Al, the Eotvoes thing is now clearly getting to you when you are
taking your frustration out on the Chinese reactor folks, because
a few learned Chinese physicists didn't dance to your tune when
you thought that you were their "Fiddler on the roof".... ahahaha...
But keep the show going... you are at your very best... entertaining
everybody at these here crazy 24/7 cyber parties .... ahahaha..
Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson |
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Gregory L. Hansen
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Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 771
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:38 am Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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In article <433C8154.3E9DDF4D@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Me wrote:
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
Listen here dirtbag. You don't tell anybody anybody s**t what to do. But,
I am going to tell you what to do.......STFU!
Then you won't get any D2O. Physical reality is Uncle Al's ally, and
a powerful ally it is. Pookie pookie, sweatheart. Eat s**t and die.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Are ya gonna get it from Alfa or Acros? Aldrich bought the ISOTEC
isotope separation plant. You could burn deuterium gas. Aldrich
sells it. You could run commercial H2 through ten thousand stages of
hot Pd/Ag membranes. You could go to Canada and suck off the Bruce
heavy water plant in Ontario. Follow the smell of rotten eggs. The
production of a single pound of heavy water requires 340,000 pounds of
feed water. Same ratio in kilograms.
Maybe you can collect some drips from the Qinshan III-Stage heavy
water nuclear reactor in Zhejiang Province, PR China.
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Boil off half a flask of water-- since D2O is heavier than H2O the
remainder will be slightly enriched.
I suspect that's not as efficient as ten thousand stages of hot Pd/Ag
membranes. How much would you have to boil to get a 50% concentration?
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"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain |
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onehappymadman@yahoo.com
science forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 07 Oct 2005
Posts: 107
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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Uncle Al wrote:
| Quote: | Me wrote:
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need
100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
Aldrich
Deuterium oxide, 99 atom-%
25 g/$(US)23.40
100 g/$(US)67.00
Deuterium oxide, 99.9 atom-%
25 g/$(US)25.10
100 g/$(US)68.60
Have your druggist buy it for you. Note that D2O is extremely
hygroscopic.
Stay out of this newsgroup Al. Your not an chemical engineer by any
means............actually, you are a chemical nothing!
Go make it yourself for less. Organikers are not chemical engineers.
ChemE's are told what to make, organikers do the telling. FOaD.
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Actually, it's management who does the telling, for better or worse.
And management ultimately reports to the shareholders.
Oh, the madness!
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Brian Webb
science forum beginner
Joined: 07 May 2005
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject:
Re: How to make D2O at home?
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"Ken Muldrew" <kmuldrezw@ucalgazry.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | "Dan Oddluck" <neutrino@outlawatoms.org> wrote:
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home ,
using normal water?
... If you can't afford that then you won't be able to
afford to enrich it yourself. ...
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I think the reply above is the most useful one.
Isn't there an electrolysis method used to polish
crude D2O to high purity? I seem to remember
that a certain additive would raise the selectivity
of D2 over H2 to 20 or so. Ring any bells?
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corum@cmrr.umn.edu
science forum beginner
Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject:
(D, 99%) $260/kg
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http://www.isotope.com/cil/products/displayproduct.cfm?prod_id=6173
Dan Oddluck wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough. |
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Herman Family
science forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 14 Jun 2005
Posts: 173
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
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The easiest method would be to burn D2 in O2 in a 2:1 ratio. I suppose you
could distill regular water. Start with perhaps a few hundred thousand
gallons in order to get one gallon of D2O. A couple hundred trays ought to
get you started. Just how much do you need? I would think that even at
nearly zero value of your time and materials, simply buying it would be
somewhat cheaper.
Michael
<corum@cmrr.umn.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | http://www.isotope.com/cil/products/displayproduct.cfm?prod_id=6173
Dan Oddluck wrote:
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need
100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
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lysdexia
science forum Guru
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:10 am Post subject:
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
| Quote: | Dan Oddluck wrote:
Is there a cheap way to make D2O at home , using normal water? Time is no
problem, but I cannot buy D2O , it's pretty expensive; and I don't need 100%
D2O, just 70%-80% should be enough.
It's not expensive. A dollar a gram in small amounts, half that in kg
amounts.
It would be hard to make yourself. You'd have to electrolyze so much
water that your power bill would add up to more than you'd buy it for.
And you'd have a lot of gunk at the end which would be hard to remove.
What do you want it for?
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And what's wrong with centrifuging them? You could push the two
molecules apart with your pinky.
-Aut |
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