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bbowling@earthlink.net
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Gas Cylinders - Partial Pressure fill Reply with quote

I am testing a few Nernst O2 sensors and I need to run a pre-determined
gas mixture over the sensors to measure response. I am in the process
of ordering a couple of gas cylinders with a mix of 1% O2 (remainder
N2) and one at 10% O2 (remainder N2). I need these percents as partial
pressures.

The specialty gas company I deal with indicates that they fill cylinder
mixes by weight. I am not an expert in gas cylinder science, so if they
indicate that they fill by weight then do I assume that this is not the
same as a partial pressure mix of the same proportion?

Also, for simple gas mixtures, is there a good source for this, or
should I stick with a specialty gas house?

Thanks in advance for the info - Bruce
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Richard
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: Gas Cylinders - Partial Pressure fill Reply with quote

bbowling@earthlink.net wrote:
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I am testing a few Nernst O2 sensors and I need to run a pre-determined
gas mixture over the sensors to measure response. I am in the process
of ordering a couple of gas cylinders with a mix of 1% O2 (remainder
N2) and one at 10% O2 (remainder N2). I need these percents as partial
pressures.

I don't think any gas supplier will do your arithmetic for you. What
exactly do you mean by 1 % as partial pressure? If you expand an
aliquot of the gas to atmospheric pressure the partial pressure of the
O2 is some fraction of 760 mm. Do you want the mixture such that the
pp of your O2 will be 76 mm Hg? If so caluclate the mole fraction of
the O2.

If I buy a cal gas I specify I want a component at 100 ppm (100 uL/L)
and they supply 100 ppm on a molar basis which is the same thing.

If you can give the gas company's applications lab or technical
specialist a coherent account of what you want they should be able to
help you if they feel like it. Its better to work out the mixture your
self to be sure you do get what you want.
Richard
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bbowling@earthlink.net
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas Cylinders - Partial Pressure fill Reply with quote

To make this clear what I am after is a 1% partial pressure at
atmosphere, which is indeed 76 mm Hg, with the remainder N2.

So, since my gas supplier is mixing with weights, I assume I need to
convert PP at atmosphere for the O2 to mass of O2 at the fill pressure
for the cylinder volume.

I will investigate specifying parts per million with this particular
gas supplier, this would be easier.

- Bruce
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