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Independent Voice
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 Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:41 am Post subject:
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The "original P&F experiment" used a simple cathode and anode (diode)
for electrolyses.
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John Schutkeker
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"Independent Voice" <IndVo765@aol.com> wrote in
news:1133160068.789272.319510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | The "original P&F experiment" used a simple cathode and anode (diode)
for electrolyses.
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All right, then how about this explanation? They put too much electrolyte
in their solution, and the increased currents caused the water to boil and
an electrode to over heat. The hot water made their bucket soften and sag,
and soon the hot electrode touched the plactic and melted through it. The
water gushed out, and the melted plastic bucket briefly caught fire before
settling into the puddle and being extinguished.
There are a hundred different scenarios whereby a clumsy experimentalist
could overheat and burn out his apparatus. That's just what happens when
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Independent Voice
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The original P&F set used a Dewar flask (a double walled glass flask).
The softening point of glass is > 550 °C.
I think boiling water cannot soften such a bucket.
Try it again.
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Alexi Tekhasski
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:12 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | "Independent Voice" <IndVo765@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1134854124.199076.132050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
The original P&F set used a Dewar flask (a double walled glass flask).
The softening point of glass is > 550 °C.
I think boiling water cannot soften such a bucket.
Try it again.
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Softening of glass is not a good explanation, true.
However, there are other simple effects. For example, see my post
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.fusion/msg/9c500481251f046e
Cheers,
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John Schutkeker
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"Alexi Tekhasski" <a.predtechenski@austin.rr.com> wrote in news:kd6pf.1408
$9e.550@tornado.texas.rr.com:
| Quote: | "Independent Voice" <IndVo765@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1134854124.199076.132050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
The original P&F set used a Dewar flask (a double walled glass flask).
The softening point of glass is > 550 °C.
I think boiling water cannot soften such a bucket.
Try it again.
Softening of glass is not a good explanation, true.
However, there are other simple effects. For example, see my post
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.fusion/msg/9c500481251f046e
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Cracked it, then. |
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