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Sue...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

MobyDikc wrote:
Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

Weber's field equations have relativity quite by accident.
Will there be a branch for intentional relavists and
accidental relavists.

The have separate prenatal classes for girls that get
pregnant by accident and girls that get pregnant on
purpose so I don't see why you can't make that minor
accomodation. I't could save you a big discrimination
lawsuit. Surprised)

Sue...
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Julian Becker
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

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Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

I especially like that http://www.aspden.org/ website. He's got some interesting papers and even most of his books to download there.

As long as there are other theories explaining facts as well or even better than relativity, I really see no need for Relativistic "space-time bending"

[quoting from http://www.aspden.org/papers/bib/1977e.htm]
QUANTUM GRAVITATION AND THE PERIHELION ANOMALY
This paper shows a way of deriving the theoretical formula for the anomalous perihelion motion of a planet, exactly the same as that developed from Einstein's four-space theory, but based on an extremely simple proposition founded in classical physics. The paper is a mere two pages in length and should be read in its full non-abstracted form as a PDF file (http://www.aspden.org/papers/bib/1977e.pdf) [...]
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Henri Wilson
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

On 13 Jan 2006 11:30:03 -0800, "MobyDikc" <mobydikc@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

That is a contradiction of terms.
Anyone who rejects Einstein's nonsense is not a crackpot...apart from Seto and
Androcles of course...

Quote:

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Many anti-relativists are aetherists, which really makes them hypocrites and
relativists in disguise since SR is just an upgraded form of LET.

Others such as myself are true relativists who know that light speed is source
dependent.

Quote:
Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

My webpage has about ten programs showing why Einstein's relativity is wrong.



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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Der alte Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

"MobyDikc" <mobydikc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137180603.662485.12030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is that Ken Seto and Gerald O'Barre, or sensible cranks?


Quote:
Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?


Not that I know of, I've been looking for wizards and witches for
hogwarts.physics training but so far have only encountered muggles.
They all want to stand out from the crowd and have their own theory.
Courses include

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/how_to_be_as_smart_as_einstein.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/people_v_Baez.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sundials.htm


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Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

If you'd like to sign up for membership I can arrange it, but I
need to know if you are a muggle or a zauberlehrling.
Hogwarts.physics officially opened on Google on 1/1/2006.


Der alte Hexenmeister ist:
Sorcerer Androcles Dumbledore, Headmaster, hogwarts.physics
school for zauberlehrlings.
"One muggle's magic is another sorcerer's engineering"
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Eric Gisse
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

MobyDikc wrote:
Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Ahh yes, the "anti-relativists". The jokers and fuckups who are too
stupid to understand relativity, but have enough of an ego to claim a
century of physics is based on fraud.

Quote:

Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

Research where the outcome is already decided? There is another name
for that...
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Bilge
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

MobyDikc:
Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Sure. Try the natural philosophy alliance. Their idea of science
and yours fit like a glove.

Quote:

Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.
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clujdej@yahoo.com
science forum Guru Wannabe


Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

"Others such as myself are true relativists who know that light speed
is source
dependent. "

Really? have you heard of Ives and Stilwell?
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clujdej@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

try this:

http://www.anti-relativity.com/forum/search.php?search_id=newposts
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big magician
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

MobyDikc wrote:
Quote:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

you are more dick than moby

Quote:

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.
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big magician
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

Bilge wrote:
Quote:
MobyDikc:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Sure. Try the natural philosophy alliance. Their idea of science
and yours fit like a glove.

thats becus yo just don know physics like we do

Quote:


Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.
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clujdej@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

Thy this one (it was mentioned)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Deneb/npahome.html

They masquarade as "anti-dognma", a step up from:

http://www.anti-relativity.com/forum/search.php?search_id=newposts

Warning: on the second website your "ideas" will get challenged by a a
lot of relativists that are waiting to kick some ass. Mostly students
that are sharpening their skills bur pretty formidable, so be prepared
to have your ass kicked big time Smile
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clujdej@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

"My webpage has about ten programs showing why Einstein's relativity is
wrong."

saw the page, have you considered consulting a psychiatrist? it may
help, even this late in your life
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Der alte Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

"Julian Becker" <julian.becker@uni-muenster.de> wrote in message
news:op.s3b3hjgcro86zw@jb-c0b21db63.uni-muenster.de...
Quote:
Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

I especially like that http://www.aspden.org/ website. He's got some
interesting papers and even most of his books to download there.

As long as there are other theories explaining facts as well or even
better than relativity, I really see no need for Relativistic "space-time
bending"

Space-time bending, 8 second movie.
http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/crls.rxml


Quote:
[quoting from http://www.aspden.org/papers/bib/1977e.htm]
QUANTUM GRAVITATION AND THE PERIHELION ANOMALY
This paper shows a way of deriving the theoretical formula for the
anomalous perihelion motion of a planet,

Anomalous? Why anomolous?
http://www.ifmo.ru/butikov/Projects/Collection1.html example 5.

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PerigeeAdvance.JPG

exactly the same as that developed from Einstein's four-space theory, but
based on an extremely simple proposition founded in classical physics. The
paper is a mere two pages in length and should be read in its full
non-abstracted form as a PDF file
(http://www.aspden.org/papers/bib/1977e.pdf) [...]
Quote:
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Der alte Hexenmeister ist:
Sorcerer Androcles Dumbledore, Headmaster, hogwarts.physics
school for zauberlehrlings.
"One muggle's magic is another sorcerer's engineering"

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/how_to_be_as_smart_as_einstein.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/people_v_Baez.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sundials.htm
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clujdej@yahoo.com
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Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

This is a website where you can p\"publish" your s**t. It isn't peer
reviewed so anything goes. There are some good (very few) papers
though, so not everything is "antirelavistic" garbage:

http://www.wbabin.net/

http://www.mrelativity.net/

If you are a student and you want to practice KAK ("Kook ASS Kicking"
), this is a good place, they have forums where you can pick apart the
s**t.
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Bilge
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Anti-relativist Alliance Reply with quote

big magician, dumbshit sockpuppet:
Quote:

Bilge wrote:
MobyDikc:
Hey all,

This is for the cranks and crackpots who reject relativity.

Is there anything like an anti-relativity alliance, so even if
anti-relativists disagree with their ideas, they can still collectively
agree that relativity is wrong?

Sure. Try the natural philosophy alliance. Their idea of science
and yours fit like a glove.

thats becus yo just don know physics like we do

I consider that a plus.

Quote:


Also, if you could please reply with a reference to your favorite
website or theory here, if there isn't already one, a list of
anti-relativity research can be created.

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