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Jerry
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:
Quote:
Jerry wrote:
fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

I looked over the 1977 Brecher article (Thanks!) and do see where
he dealt with extinction (to my satisfaction) in accordance with what
was thought to be known about it at the time. Still have to look over
the two J.G. Fox articles that I don't currently hold. Am. J. Phys.,
30, 297 (1962), and J. Opt. Soc. America, 57,967 (1967).

I can't help you on the J. Opt. Soc. America article, since the
local university library doesn't carry it.

Jerry

I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother DID have the Fox (1967) article, which I scanned.
http://imaginary_nematode.home.comcast.net/papers/Fox_1967.pdf

On my web site, I've just uploaded another paper of interest that Fox
recommended as having properly controlled for extinction:
http://imaginary_nematode.home.comcast.net/papers/Babcock_Bergman_1964.pdf

I also have
http://imaginary_nematode.home.comcast.net/papers/Beckmann_Mandics_1965.pdf
which Fox recommended as having meaningful data.

Jerry
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Dirk Van de moortel
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145413720.625220.132120@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145371814.802197.126940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother

Tom, right?

Yep, you're absolutely right, Tom and Jerry! Smile

Yeep!
But we know that is not the reason why I asked, don't we?
Cheers and enjoy :-)

Dirk Vdm


Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Jerry_(MGM)
http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/
http://www.tomandjerrycartoons.com/

Except, of course, Jerry is only my handle, not my real name.

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Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145413720.625220.132120@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
| > "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145371814.802197.126940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
| > > fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:
| > >
| > > > I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
| > > > take a while to wrestle it through.
| > >
| > > My brother
| >
| > Tom, right?
|
| Yep, you're absolutely right, Tom and Jerry! Smile
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Jerry_(MGM)
| http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/
| http://www.tomandjerrycartoons.com/
|
| Except, of course, Jerry is only my handle, not my real name.
|
| Jerry

Oh dear... Now the Belgian arsehole will stalk you, pseudonyms are a crime
to Dork Van de merde. Expect a trojan in your computer, specifically targeted.

news:8xr0g.375454$HH5.10965099@phobos.telenet-ops.be

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Jerry
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
Quote:
"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145371814.802197.126940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother

Tom, right?

Yep, you're absolutely right, Tom and Jerry! Smile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Jerry_(MGM)
http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/
http://www.tomandjerrycartoons.com/

Except, of course, Jerry is only my handle, not my real name.

Jerry
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Henri Wilson
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:51:46 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145371814.802197.126940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother

Tom, right?

Dirk Vdm

Gord!

Humour, Dinky style!

Quote:

says that he owns Fox (1967). Assuming that he
can find it (not certain), I'll scan and post tonight.

Jerry




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Kadaitcha Man
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

Peaches <toil@trouble.com>, the scatological stewardess, bewailed:

Quote:
The feathered, oxygen wasting pimple known as "Kadaitcha Man"
f***-you.ya.cunt@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> wrote in message
news:i4bobg$611$p@pointless-milk-fountains.net.jp...
HW@..(Henri Wilson), the double-dealing gunsmith, urped:

Time is a scalar. It it always positive.

Why do you believe that time is always positive? Interacting
particles do not give a s**t what direction time is running in so
what law of physics is violated if an interaction happens in
reverse, other than no law at all?

The time dilation factor of any massless particle is zero, so if we
can have positive time and zero time, and we can have twin particles
where each individual particle can experience different amounts of
time, = sqrt[1-(v/c)^2], why can't there be negative time? Hmmm?

If = sqrt[1-(v/c)^2] goes to zero when v = c, what happens if v is
greater than c? Hmmm? is the square root of a negative number, is
it not? Hmmm? Doesn't that make imaginary? Hmmm? What about E? Is E
also imaginary? Hmmm?

E = m0c^2/sqrt[(v/c)^2 1]

That says the order of events can be reversed.

HTH & HAND

You did a lot of humming

Hmmm? <> Hummmmm!

You idiot.

Quote:
in that post where you must've lifted most
of the content, but it keeps you occupied......................


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Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:y8a1g.379426$Qw4.10997889@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
| >
| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b> wrote in message news:T_91g.121452$zI1.66381@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
|
| > "Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in
| > message news:dnb942h49sq9mvjrmecvq6kf718m5mgvm3@4ax.com...
|
| [snip nothing really]

[snip s**t really]

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dork/real.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Dork/s**t.htm

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Eric Gisse
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

Henri Wilson wrote:
Quote:
On 18 Apr 2006 00:45:56 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote:


Henri Wilson wrote:
On 17 Apr 2006 18:17:05 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote:

fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:
I found this passage (first in German and then in English traslation)


Risking being too free in the translation, my reading is:
"If k had a significant value, that [i.e. the observed statistical
correlation]
would naturally be just the reverse."

c+v effects should be larger for short period binaries, so that
short period binaries should have tend to have larger calculated
eccentricities than long period binaries. Instead, Mr. Guthnick
found an opposite correlation.

That is not necessarily true.
It depends on the orbital velocities.
...but there is another factor according to the BaTh. Stars in circular orbits
will show doppler shift curves that resemble those of elliptical orbits. The
effect increases as the critical distance is approached. The reverse can happen
with elliptical orbits. They can appear circular as the observer distance
increases.

Why is it you feel you get to pick and choose what observational
evidence supports your theory?

geesey why don't you try to find a career suit your ability level...like fruit
picking...

For the same reason you refuse to do any mathematics or experiment in
regards to your theory.

Quote:


Jerry


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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Henri Wilson
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

On 18 Apr 2006 00:45:56 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Henri Wilson wrote:
On 17 Apr 2006 18:17:05 -0700, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote:

fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:
I found this passage (first in German and then in English traslation)


Risking being too free in the translation, my reading is:
"If k had a significant value, that [i.e. the observed statistical
correlation]
would naturally be just the reverse."

c+v effects should be larger for short period binaries, so that
short period binaries should have tend to have larger calculated
eccentricities than long period binaries. Instead, Mr. Guthnick
found an opposite correlation.

That is not necessarily true.
It depends on the orbital velocities.
...but there is another factor according to the BaTh. Stars in circular orbits
will show doppler shift curves that resemble those of elliptical orbits. The
effect increases as the critical distance is approached. The reverse can happen
with elliptical orbits. They can appear circular as the observer distance
increases.

Why is it you feel you get to pick and choose what observational
evidence supports your theory?

geesey why don't you try to find a career suit your ability level...like fruit
picking...


Quote:
Jerry


HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm


HW.
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Peaches
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

The feathered, oxygen wasting pimple known as "Kadaitcha Man"
<f***-you.ya.cunt@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> wrote in message
news:i4bobg$611$p@pointless-milk-fountains.net.jp...
Quote:
HW@..(Henri Wilson), the double-dealing gunsmith, urped:

Time is a scalar. It it always positive.

Why do you believe that time is always positive? Interacting particles
do not give a s**t what direction time is running in so what law of
physics is violated if an interaction happens in reverse, other than no
law at all?

The time dilation factor of any massless particle is zero, so if we can
have positive time and zero time, and we can have twin particles where
each individual particle can experience different amounts of time,
= sqrt[1-(v/c)^2], why can't there be negative time? Hmmm?

If = sqrt[1-(v/c)^2] goes to zero when v = c, what happens if v is
greater than c? Hmmm? is the square root of a negative number, is it
not? Hmmm? Doesn't that make imaginary? Hmmm? What about E? Is E
also imaginary? Hmmm?

E = m0c^2/sqrt[(v/c)^2 1]

That says the order of events can be reversed.

HTH & HAND

You did a lot of humming in that post where you must've lifted most

of the content, but it keeps you occupied......................

Quote:

--
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September 2005 and April 2006

ObHint: Just because you argue with a notorious fuckwit netk0oK, it
does not necessarily follow that you are not also a fuckwit netk0oK.
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Dirk Van de moortel
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

Quote:

"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b> wrote in message news:T_91g.121452$zI1.66381@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...


Quote:
"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in
message news:dnb942h49sq9mvjrmecvq6kf718m5mgvm3@4ax.com...

[snip nothing really]

Quote:

No answer from Wilson.
It went straight over your head, didn't it?
You lose, Wilson.

Androcles.

Argument between Wilson and Androcles.
Silence.
Androcles leaves room and smacks door.
Silence.
Androcles opens door from outside and smacks it again.
Wilson wins.

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Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message news:dnb942h49sq9mvjrmecvq6kf718m5mgvm3@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:09:40 GMT, "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b>
| wrote:
|
| >
| >"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message news:h0n642lauur879934i0ea8suqn9lmj1vf6@4ax.com...
| >| On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:56:30 GMT, "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b>
| >| wrote:
| >|
|
| >|
| >| Light speed = distance/time taken.
| >| OW light speed from B to A = d/(d/c) = c (it cannot be measured)
| >
| >Of course it can. You yourself proposed a moon limb experiment.
| >Roemer used the eclipsing Jovian moons as his clock.
| >Today we have Cassini, accurate to microseconds. But never mind...
| >
| >| OWLS from A back to B = d/(d/c) = c (it cannot be measured)
| >
| >WRONG!!!
| >
| >OWLS from A back to B = -d/(-d/-c) = -c.
| >
| >I asked
| >"YOU (Henry Wilson)
| > supports the Einsteinian religion
| > 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c.
| > Why? "
| >You've answered my question, you don't know what "velocity" is.
| >Physicist for 45 years and still doesn't know what "negative" means.
| >No wonder you rant.

No answer from Wilson.
It went straight over your head, didn't it?
You lose, Wilson.

Androcles.
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Hexenmeister
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message news:dnb942h49sq9mvjrmecvq6kf718m5mgvm3@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:09:40 GMT, "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b>
| wrote:
|
| >
| >"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message news:h0n642lauur879934i0ea8suqn9lmj1vf6@4ax.com...
| >| On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:56:30 GMT, "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b>
| >| wrote:
| >|
|
| >|
| >| Light speed = distance/time taken.
| >| OW light speed from B to A = d/(d/c) = c (it cannot be measured)
| >
| >Of course it can. You yourself proposed a moon limb experiment.
| >Roemer used the eclipsing Jovian moons as his clock.
| >Today we have Cassini, accurate to microseconds. But never mind...
| >
| >| OWLS from A back to B = d/(d/c) = c (it cannot be measured)
| >
| >WRONG!!!
| >
| >OWLS from A back to B = -d/(-d/-c) = -c.
| >
| >I asked
| >"YOU (Henry Wilson)
| > supports the Einsteinian religion
| > 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c.
| > Why? "
| >You've answered my question, you don't know what "velocity" is.
| >Physicist for 45 years and still doesn't know what "negative" means.
| >No wonder you rant.
| >
| >
| >| TWLS from B to A and back again to B = 2d/(2d/c) = c ( IT CAN BE MEASURED)
| >
| >Nonsense. TWLS = c + (-c) = 0 ( IT CAN BE MEASURED)
| >It IS measured and it is STILL zero.
|
| Ask the nurse if she will increase you dose tonight, A.

You can't handle simple math, so you insult instead.
You fucking relativist troll.
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1145371814.802197.126940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother

Tom, right?

Dirk Vdm

Quote:
says that he owns Fox (1967). Assuming that he
can find it (not certain), I'll scan and post tonight.

Jerry
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Jerry
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Ritz ballistic emission theory material Reply with quote

fritzius@bellsouth.net wrote:

Quote:
I can get copies of the papers from my university library. Will
take a while to wrestle it through.

My brother says that he owns Fox (1967). Assuming that he
can find it (not certain), I'll scan and post tonight.

Jerry
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