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S Jones
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Odd Recording Reply with quote

Hello all,

I have made what I thought would be blank recordings using my computer
and upon replay found there was lots of sound present. Could ingress of
a radio signal be the cause?

I have uploaded some at http://saj.deena.ca/mcsound

Only the files named "no mic###.wav" are applicable to this question, so
you'll have to scroll down. I have tried to use software called Goldwave
to remove hiss and found what I believe to be voices! Anyone care to try
their hand at analysis?

SZG
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Noral Stewart
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Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 77

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Odd Recording Reply with quote

I was not able to listen, but it is not unusual at all for radio
interference to get into electronics especially if you are anywhere near a
strong transmitter.

"S Jones" <szg65@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:mID%f.59624$VV4.1101593@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
Quote:
Hello all,

I have made what I thought would be blank recordings using my computer and
upon replay found there was lots of sound present. Could ingress of a
radio signal be the cause?

I have uploaded some at http://saj.deena.ca/mcsound

Only the files named "no mic###.wav" are applicable to this question, so
you'll have to scroll down. I have tried to use software called Goldwave
to remove hiss and found what I believe to be voices! Anyone care to try
their hand at analysis?

SZG
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TheGhost
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Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Odd Recording Reply with quote

S Jones <szg65@yahoo.ca> wrote in news:mID%f.59624$VV4.1101593@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Quote:
Hello all,

I have made what I thought would be blank recordings using my computer
and upon replay found there was lots of sound present. Could ingress of
a radio signal be the cause?

I have uploaded some at http://saj.deena.ca/mcsound

Only the files named "no mic###.wav" are applicable to this question, so
you'll have to scroll down. I have tried to use software called Goldwave
to remove hiss and found what I believe to be voices! Anyone care to try
their hand at analysis?

SZG

Make up a dummy mic input connector with both R and L pins shorted to
common/ground and insert it into the mic input on your sound card. Use
whatever software that came with the card to set "ALL" gains of "ALL"
inputs on the sound to zero. If you still hear voices on playback, you will
need to get another sound card that is better designed in terms of its
susceptibility to radio-frequency interference. The only other possibility
is that there is that you have a radio-freqeuncy interference problem with
the electronics that you are using to amplify the output of your sound
card.
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Angelo Campanella
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Joined: 08 May 2005
Posts: 226

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Odd Recording Reply with quote

S Jones wrote:
Quote:
I have made what I thought would be blank recordings using my computer
and upon replay found there was lots of sound present. Could ingress of
a radio signal be the cause?

I played 2 4 and 11, and all I heard was solid state noise (static
hiss). No voices, sorry. I have often listened to this sort of
solid-state preamp noise, and sure enough, listen to it long enough and
your mind starts to make out what it would like to hear... faint
"voices" are not unusual in that case.

Yes, there is a possibility that the electric waves of strong local AM
stations can get into the mic preamp, especially if there is no ic (open
terminal), and you will hear the program material for sure. The front
end solid state circuit will act as a crystal receiver. But when this is
occurring, you usually can modify it by touching a finger to the meter
case, or placing that finger near or on the microphone terminals. And of
course, you might really recognize the program or music content as
coming from that local AM station familiar to you.

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Only the files named "no mic###.wav" are applicable to this question, so
you'll have to scroll down. I have tried to use software called Goldwave
to remove hiss and found what I believe to be voices! Anyone care to try
their hand at analysis?

I hear sufficient solid state hiss that whatever stuff you find 10 to
20 dB down from that level will be of no consequence as compared to that
electronic noise.

I also listtened to a 'breath out' WAV, and there was less hiss there.
Is it that the 'no-mic' WAV's are with an open mic mount? if so, then
extraneous electrical noise is picked up or generated by the input
circuit, so that the test is unfair. The correct way to do this is to
use a dummy load that equivocates the electric impedance of the
microphone... typically 50 picofarads or so for air condenser microphones.

Angelo Campanella


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