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Herb Singleton
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

Hey All,

The Boston Chapter of the ASA was asked if members were interested in
doing an acoustics demonstration for the Massachusetts State Science
Fair in May. Several of us are interested, but we're having a problem
coming up with an interesting demo that doesn't require a lot of prep
time given that we're all busy.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping for something better then setting up a
spectrum analyzer and telling people "here, look at your vocal
spectrum."

(BTW, if anyone is interested in participating, contact Rose Mary Su at
Acentech rsu at acentech.com )

Herb
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Don Pearce
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:38:16 -0400, Herb Singleton
<usenet3@cross-spectrum.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hey All,

The Boston Chapter of the ASA was asked if members were interested in
doing an acoustics demonstration for the Massachusetts State Science
Fair in May. Several of us are interested, but we're having a problem
coming up with an interesting demo that doesn't require a lot of prep
time given that we're all busy.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping for something better then setting up a
spectrum analyzer and telling people "here, look at your vocal
spectrum."

(BTW, if anyone is interested in participating, contact Rose Mary Su at
Acentech rsu at acentech.com )

Herb

How about something without electrics. Get a pair of biggish satellite
dishes and point them at each other several yards apart. Leave the
amplifier clamps in position, and let people talk and listen to their
friends by putting their mouth or ear to the clamp. There is a big
version of this at the science museum in London, with the dishes about
50 yards apart. It is very popular.

d

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GregS
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

In article <444d1e98.818779843@text.usenet.plus.net>, donald@pearce.uk.com (Don Pearce) wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:38:16 -0400, Herb Singleton
usenet3@cross-spectrum.com> wrote:

Hey All,

The Boston Chapter of the ASA was asked if members were interested in
doing an acoustics demonstration for the Massachusetts State Science
Fair in May. Several of us are interested, but we're having a problem
coming up with an interesting demo that doesn't require a lot of prep
time given that we're all busy.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping for something better then setting up a
spectrum analyzer and telling people "here, look at your vocal
spectrum."

(BTW, if anyone is interested in participating, contact Rose Mary Su at
Acentech rsu at acentech.com )

Herb

How about something without electrics. Get a pair of biggish satellite
dishes and point them at each other several yards apart. Leave the
amplifier clamps in position, and let people talk and listen to their
friends by putting their mouth or ear to the clamp. There is a big
version of this at the science museum in London, with the dishes about
50 yards apart. It is very popular.


Don't forget to fill any voids in the dish. They are not all solid.

greg
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Repeating Rifle
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

On 4/24/06 11:38 AM, in article
usenet3-E2F81B.14381624042006@news.giganews.com, "Herb Singleton"
<usenet3@cross-spectrum.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hey All,

The Boston Chapter of the ASA was asked if members were interested in
doing an acoustics demonstration for the Massachusetts State Science
Fair in May. Several of us are interested, but we're having a problem
coming up with an interesting demo that doesn't require a lot of prep
time given that we're all busy.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping for something better then setting up a
spectrum analyzer and telling people "here, look at your vocal
spectrum."

(BTW, if anyone is interested in participating, contact Rose Mary Su at
Acentech rsu at acentech.com )

Herb

There are some toys using corrugated tubing that make a tone if you whirl
them around. Do something to show that the corrugations are necessary or
what kind of surface leads to the tone.

Bill
-- Ferme le Bush
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Chris Notton
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

In article <usenet3-E2F81B.14381624042006@news.giganews.com>, usenet3
@cross-spectrum.com says...
Quote:
Hey All,

The Boston Chapter of the ASA was asked if members were interested in
doing an acoustics demonstration for the Massachusetts State Science
Fair in May. Several of us are interested, but we're having a problem
coming up with an interesting demo that doesn't require a lot of prep
time given that we're all busy.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping for something better then setting up a
spectrum analyzer and telling people "here, look at your vocal
spectrum."

(BTW, if anyone is interested in participating, contact Rose Mary Su at
Acentech rsu at acentech.com )

Herb

How about a demonstration (Harvey Fletcher) of the decrease in pitch

(not frequency) of low frequencies with loudness. Play two tones of 198
& 318 Hz from two speakers. They will sound discordant. Gradually
increase the volume and the pitch of the tones will diminish to an
octave relationship and a pleasant sound will be observed. You could
also try it with high frequencies which increase with loudness.

OR

Play people tones they can't hear individually (21&22Khz for example)
and see if they can hear the difference frequencies when both tones are
played together.

OR


Play (approx) 300hz in one side of a pair of closed headphones & 150hz
in the other (you might have to vary the frequecy a little) and a
harmonic is percieved, change the 300Hz. to around 450Hz. and the third
will be percieved. Where are they coming from? Ear or brain?

These demonstrations are easy to do and baffled me at college!! I still
don't understand the third one properly!!

Pip pip



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Herb Singleton
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the ideas.

I'm leaning toward the headphones demo - not a lot of equipment, and now
that I think of it, there were lots of headphone experiments that I
carried out in college that might be interesting.

Herb
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TheGhost
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

Herb Singleton <usenet3@cross-spectrum.com> wrote in news:usenet3-
79C49E.19574026042006@news.giganews.com:

Quote:
Thanks everyone for the ideas.

I'm leaning toward the headphones demo - not a lot of equipment, and now
that I think of it, there were lots of headphone experiments that I
carried out in college that might be interesting.

Herb


Interesting. That's what I was going to suggest. Perhaps you can borrow a
HATS from Bruel & Kjaer. I've always been fascinated by the meaningless
20Hz-20KHz frequency response spec given by most/all headphone
manufacturers.
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Florida Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

Herb,

How about a demonstration box that shows "insulation is not a sound
barrier"?
I made one many years ago, but no longer have it. It was a 1'x1'x1'
cube of 3/4" plywood. The top and sides were 3/4" were one piece. the
bottom (base) had a drycell battery and an doorbell about 2.5" dia. the
type with the clapper that banged on the side of it. I made up some
smaller parts same shape as the top and side part, but smaller so the
plywood top/side part could be put on top of them. One part was
fiberglass duct board (without foil), another was open cell foam. You
could also make one of mineral fiber acoustical tile or other
materials. Be creative. Changing out the different top/side components
while the bell is ringing gives a good demonstration of how mass is
important for noise reduction. Also there is a noticeable difference
wtih the plywood cover (with and without fiberglass inside.) Fairly
simple and inexpensive You could make a series of boxes, each with a
diffferent cover. And switch them off and on to demonstrate the
difference. You could set up a SLM and show the spectrum of each in
real time, or use a mike through as sound card and display on a laptop
screen.
You do want a seal on the bottom edged of the plywood box cover to
reduce crack leakage. Thin closed cell weather stripping works okay.

Just a suggestion.

Dave Fagen
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Eric Rosenberg
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Science Fair Demo Ideas? Reply with quote

Nice little demo all packaged and ready to go re active noise control
from Virginia Tech:

http://www.val.me.vt.edu/Experiment/experiments.html

Eric
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