TURMEL: Ryan says "10 can't repay 11" is fallacy; any bets?

John Turmel · science forum Guru Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 424

JCT: We've heard many exchanges on Bill Ryan's "10 can't
repay 11" fallacy with Marc Gauvin, Marc, with a university
science degree and Ryan, probably having failed high school.
So many, some have become tired of reading these long
exchanges. Of course, they don't have to read these debates
but they can't resist, so, like Michael Linton, suggests the
debate no longer being published on ijccr. Why Michael would
want to prevent others reading what he doesn't want to read
about how interest works or not does demonstrate the
cognitive dissonance instilled into people's minds by
Mammon. Marc slapped his brain around.

Then Richard Kay, who may have professed to be an engineer,
har har har, an engineer who can't speak Laplace Transforms,
tried to invoke Zeno's paradox to explain how 10 can pay 11.
He got his brain slapped around too. No more mouthing out of
him on the subject.

I haven't had time to follow the debates though I was amused
by low-tech Ryan's claim that a quadratic equation is
exponential. Marc kept trying to explain how exponential
meant a function of itself. An exponential can never reach
zero because something to the 0th power = 1, the original
amount, balance. It's best shown if you plot it along an x-
axis from the positive to the negative.

x --> x^2 / 2^x

100-> 10,000 / 1,000,000
10 -> 100 / 1024
9 --> 81 / 512
8 --> 64 / 256
7 --> 49 / 128
6 --> 36 / 64
5 --> 25 / 32
4 --> 16 / 16
3 --> 9 / 8
2 --> 4 / 4
1 --> 1 / 2
0 --> 0 / 1
-1 -> 1 / 1/2
-2 -> 4 / 1/4
-3 -> 9 / 1/8
-4 -> 16 / 1/16
-5 -> 25 / 1/32
-6 -> 36 / 1/64
-7 -> 49 / 1/128
-8 -> 64 / 1/256
-9 -> 81 / 1/512
-10-> 100 / 1/1024
-100-> 10,000 / 1/1,000,000

See the very great difference between 2 to the x (2^x) and x
squared (x^2)?

Anyway, this has nothing to do with with piss-possessed Bill
Ryan's failure to master high school math. It's about the
"10 can't pay 11" fallacy, or not, one of the trickiest
sleights of financial fraud in history. And the orthodox way
of thinking about Mammon has been so conditioned into us
that hearing the uncomfortable truth that we are in the
grips of an insane genocidal debt slavery system strikes at
the cognitive dissonance of the conditioned slaves who would
prefer not to know.

The issue is whether "10 can't repay 11" is a fallacy as
charged or whether interest on money creates a death-gamble
that is inescapable without the banker's control. Ryan keeps
pointing out that the bankers can issue new loans so you can
keep paying your interest instead of foreclosing. No one
should have that power over others.

I've always bet you can't return 11 chips to the casino cage
when you only borrowed 10 into circulation; you can't return
11 liters of liquidity to the pump house when you only
borrowed 10 liters into the pool; you can't return 11 anti-
social computer credits when you only borrowed 10 into
circulation.

Let the bankster agents provocateurs laugh. Marc's victory
in the debate is easily demonstrated from the group by
nobody ever being willing to take my bet. So, before the
debate goes on, I offer to bet up to $1000 Canadian cash or
1000 Hours that Ryan has not made his point that "10 can't
repay 11" is a fallacy.

And Ryan chanting "Turmel drinks his own piss" doesn't count
as technical rebuttal. Har har har har.

w_b_ryan@yahoo.com · science forum Guru Wannabe Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 134

"By the way, he thinks he's shaming me while I think
he's helping spread a message many people will
eventually thank me for. I couldn't ask for a better
plug to bring this natural miraculous healer to
everyone's attention, even if from a demented
lunatic. I'm so not ashamed that I even pee a mug
full and chug it in the DVD put out last year at
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happy to get the message out."
John "Piss Boy" Turmel

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