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John Turmel
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 Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject:
TURMEL: Canada Post search finds Parker's Pot; suing for replevin
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JCT: Not many people are aware that while searching
Terry Parker's mail recently, Canada Post found some pot
destined for Terry Parker and rather than presume he was
exempted, Canada Post turned it over to the police forcing
Parker to have to sue to get is medicine back. Neat, eh?
Canada Post searches the jail for pot and forces medical
users to hire lawyers to get it back because, once in the
hands of the police, they need a judge to order it be given
back! Generates lots of work for lawyers.
| Quote: | Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:37 PM
From: Terry Parker Jr. [mailto:terryparkerjr@sympatico.ca]
To: Roselli, Frank
Subject: Fw: R. v. Parker (July 31, 2000)
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Dear Mr. Roselli,
Please find the enclosed Ontario Court od Appeal decision,
striking down our marijuana laws as unconstitutional. Since
this decision, the crown has not appealed, and there has
been no further re-enactment of criminal code statue against
marijuana.
I understand officer Gurney badge #2459 has intercepted my
mail from Canada Post, containing some personal marijuana. I
would appreciate for Peel regional Police to recognize this
decision, and honour it.
On a personal level, I have been extremely helpful with
police in respect to honocide, break and enter, and
addressing medical child abuse. How can I be of any further
assistance, when prone to status epilepticus, which claims
2400-4600 lives, each and every year in Canada.
Please allow me to survive epilepsy, and return my mail.
Thanking you in advance, I remain. Truly, Terry Parker Jr.
www.geocities.com/terryparkerjr
www.cyberclass.net/turmel/timeline.htm
DOCKET: C28732
COURT OF APPEAL FOR ONTARIO
CATZMAN, CHARRON and ROSENBERG JJ.A.
BETWEEN: HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN Appellant
- and - TERRANCE PARKER Respondent
Heard: October 6, 7 and 8, 1999
On appeal against the stay of proceedings granted to the
respondent by The Honourable Judge Patrick Sheppard on
December 10, 1997.....
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| Quote: | Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:43 PM
From: Roselli, Frank
To: Terry Parker Jr.
Cc: Asanin, Sveto
Subject: RE: R. v. Parker (July 31, 2000)
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FR: Dear Mr. Parker,
According to our records this package was delivered to Peel
Regional Police by Canada Post due to its contents.
JCT: How did Canada Post know its contents? Have they been
searching mail for pot?
FR: It was immediately forwarded to our Morality Bureau for
further investigation and to be dealt with according to our
policy and procedures. I am not aware what, if any, further
investigation or other action has been undertaken. Your
request therefore has also been forwarded to the Morality
Bureau for their information and action they deem
appropriate. I expect you will hear from them in due course.
Regards
Frank Roselli Supt. 846 OIC 12 Division
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| Quote: | From: Conroy, Gerard
To: terryparkerjr@sympatico.ca
Cc: Conroy, Gerard ; Late, Rita
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: FW: R. v. Parker
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GC: Mr. Parker
I am responding to your e-mail directed towards
Superintendent Roselli of the Peel Regional Police dated
April 25th 2006.
Constable Late of our Morality Bureau has been assigned to
investigate this matter and has now completed her
investigation. After lengthy discussion with the Mr. John
North of the Department of Justice we will not be forwarding
the package of marihuana to you. Below is the basis for our
findings, should you have any further questions please
contact the Department of Justice, Brampton office (905-454-
2424) or Health Canada. D/S Conroy
Peel Regional Police 905-453-3311 x3500
-----Original Message-----
| Quote: | From: Late, Rita
Sent: May 16, 2006 4:04 PM
To: Conroy, Gerard
Subject: R. v. Parker
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RL: Sir,
John North of the Department of Justice advised he contacted
the Department of Justice in Ottawa as well as Health Canada
in Ottawa regarding the Terry Parker matter, which resulted
in the following information; Terry Parker had an exemption
under section 52 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act
(CDSA) before the Medical Marihuana Access Division of
Health Canada (MMAR) came into effect.
JCT: Sadly, John North and the Justice and Health
Departments in Ottawa have the section wrong:
Proof of notice
52. (1) For the purposes of this Act and the regulations,
the giving of any notice, whether orally or in writing, or
the service of any document may be proved by the oral
evidence of, or by the affidavit or solemn declaration of,
the person claiming to have given that notice or served that
document.
JCT: It's S.56 of the CDSA where exemptions are granted.
RL: The Constitutional exemption to possess marihuana lapsed
in 2004.
JCT: Parker thought it was still alive. On what date did
John North tell her it lapsed in 2004.
RL: Terry Parker does not have a current Constitutional
exemption nor does he have a license under the MMAR to
possess marihuana.
JCT: He has a constitutional exemption granted by the
Ontario Court of Appeal in 2000 and extended by the Ontario
Superior Court of Justice until the government has
successfully complied with the Court of Appeal's Order to
exempt Terry Parker. Having failed to prevail on Parker's
doctor or his insurance company to participate is their
failure to comply, not Parker's. It is only Parker's Court
of Appeal exemption that protects him until Health Canada
complies by granting him one. Granting him a chance at one
if he can convince the recalcitrant medical industry is not
sufficient relief.
RL: Terry Parker is not legally authorized to possess the
marihuana and there is no basis to provide the seized
marihuana to him.
JCT: And of course, he is the first of two Canadians, with
Krieger, who have constitutional exemptions until Health
Canada takes over exempting them. Maybe the police don't
follow the current news. We know lawyers and judges do not.
Then again, it's always a judas goat from the Alan-Young /
Narc Emery / Boris St-Maurice cabal on the news so their
only fault for being fooled is not digging for the truth. Of
course, some judges who were confronted with it pleaded the
Nuremberg "I must follow orders, bad or not" defence.
RL: The onus is on Terry Parker to file an application under
section 24 CDSA for the substance to be returned to him if
he wishes to do so.
JCT: Guess so.
RL: Section 24 CDSA
Section 24 CDSA applies to a situation where a controlled
substance is seized/found or otherwise acquired by a peace
officer.
JCT: The problem here is the "otherwise acquired" meaning.
If Canada Post are snooping on our mail, Canada's gardeners
should be informed to use private couriers from now on. You
can bet Parker isn't going by Canada Post anymore, right.
The best way to hit these donkeys where it hurts is to
advertise the fact that your medicinal pot is not safe if
you ship by Canada Post. If there's going to be any
picketing, it's going to Parker in front of Canada Post on
the three days before he demands a court redress their
abuse.
And of course, this is job for your Member of Parliament!
Terry has to ask his member of Parliament if his medicine is
safe with Canada Post or are medicinal exemptees going have
to start Section 24 applications to get their medicine back
much like the Court of Appeal ordered everyone should be
busted and they'd let the sick off after the judges have
conducted their medical exams.
RL: Any person within 60 days of the seizure may apply by
notice in writing to a justice in the jurisdiction in which
the substance is being detained for an order to return that
substance to the person.
JCT: We did one for the Toronto Trio before Justice Sheppard
who refused to give it back to legitimately exempted
applicants but I was so puked out by Bruce Ryan continually
trying to involve the Hitzig decision in his booby-trapped
"Health Canada put back two cancers, why would they do
that?" move that I didn't pursue and appeal for their pot.
So I'd love to get Parker his pot back and point out it's
because Parker and Krieger can prove they are sick. If you
can really prove you are sick, they court lets them bust you
but then the court's medical examination will most likely
concur with your doctor's opinion. Har har har har.
RL: Where, on the hearing of an application, a justice is
satisfied that an applicant is the lawful owner or is
lawfully entitled to possession of the controlled substance
and the Attorney General does not indicate that the
substance may be required for the purposes of a preliminary
inquiry, trial or other proceeding, the justice shall, order
that the substance be returned forthwith to the applicant.
JCT: Right. And if he won't, I think it's up to Superior
Court and then Appeal Court even the Supreme, in just days,
because getting his pot back is statistically a "life and
death" issue. Again. I could have done it for Hitzig
supporter Bruce Ryan and the Toronto trio but he scuttled
every great chance we had to use the Krieger decision in
their cultivation challenge, I wasn't going to let him
scuttle it at a higher level so the Crown also have it with
the Alan Young team's losers in Wakeford, Hitzig, Clay,
Caine, Malmo-Levine, Kubby. But helping Parker dig his pot
out of them is going to be a joy.
RL: Where a justice is not satisfied than an applicant is
the lawful owner or is lawfully entitled to possession of
the controlled substance, the justice shall order the
substance be forfeited, to be disposed of or otherwise dealt
with in accordance with the regulations.
Constable Rita Late #1869
Peel Regional Police Morality Bureau (Drug Squad)
(905)453-3311 Ext. 3515 rita.late @peelpolice.on.ca
| Quote: | Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:45:42 -0400
From: terryparkerjr@sympatico.ca ("Terry Parker Jr.")
Subject: [MedPot-discuss] Fw: R. v. Parker
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NE: Well, for starters, it's a Section 56, not a Section 52.
Terry, what does this mean? The Constitutional exemption to
possess marihuana lapsed in (2004 ????). How do they
figure 2004?
JCT: Right. Terry should thank them for the information on
how to get his medicine back and inform them he will be
following their advice. After making sure he promises to
inform the Ministriese of Justice and Health that it's
section 56, not 52, and finds out what date in 2004 they say
Parker's exemption lapsed.
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NE: Hey Terry - what's with the "Morality Bureau"? I believe
it is a Federal offence to open someone else's mail. I
believe called 'tampering'. Canada Post is not permitted.
JCT: That would be a service of the federal government of
Canada being called into question. So I guess Terry should
address the question of Canada Post searching and turning
over to the police medical marijuana thus forcing exemptees
to have to launch court actions to get their medicine back!
Great new employment opportunities for lawyers if Canada
Post turns over medical marijuana so everyone has to go to c
court to get it back.
No, I think it's better to advertise what Canada Post have
done so people switch to private couriers. Who knows, they
may be doing this to many exemptees who don't have the
resources to launch a Section 24 application for replevin of
their legitimate medicine.
So the real injustice isn't seizing medicinal pot, after all
the sick get it back, it's being forced hire a lawyer to
file a section 24 application for its return. What a neat
way to hurt medical marijuana exemptees. Just grab it and
see if they can find their way through the courts to get it
back.
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Criminal Code
PART IX: OFFENCES AGAINST RIGHTS OF PROPERTY
Robbery and Extortion
345. Every one who stops a mail conveyance with intent to
rob or search it is guilty of an indictable offence and
liable to imprisonment for life. R.S., c. C-34, s. 304.
JCT: Some certainly searched Terry's mail.
Criminal Code
PART IX: OFFENCES AGAINST RIGHTS OF PROPERTY
Having in Possession
356. (1) Every one who
(a) steals
(i) any thing sent by post, after it is deposited at a post
office and before it is delivered,
(ii) a bag, sack or other container or covering in which
mail is conveyed, whether or not it contains mail, or
(iii) a key suited to a lock adopted for use in the Canada
Post Corporation, or
(b) has in his possession anything in respect of which he
knows that an offence has been committed under paragraph
(a), is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to
imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.
(2) In proceedings for an offence under this section it is
not necessary to allege in the indictment or to prove on the
trial that anything in respect of which the offence was
committed had any value.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 314; 1980-81-82-83, c. 54, s. 56.
JCT: It's a waste of time to chase the police. Once the
controlled substance was turned over to them,there is only
one way they can now give it back, with the right paperwork.
Still, the Pitt exemption and the National Post article
should have done the trick.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/289
289 Parker Win in National Post 3/20
Epileptic wins lifetime right to marijuana
Awaits parliament
National Post, with files from The Canadian Press
by Joseph Brean
A man who was granted temporary legal permission to smoke
and grow marijuana to ease his epileptic seizures, has had
the right extended until Parliament recognizes an Ontario
court's ruling that the drug has medicinal uses.
Terry Parker said the ruling, which makes him the only
lifetime legal pot smoker in the country, came as a
bittersweet relief.
"Today's not too bad, got an extension, won't be going to
jail [but] I should not be the only civilian in Canada to
use marijuana for epilepsy," he said. "It should be people
with cancer, MS [multiple sclerosis], the whole gamut."
Mr. Parker was first granted the right to grow and possess
marijuana by an Ontario court in 1997, after a lengthy court
battle over drug possession and trafficking charges.
He was convicted of trafficking after police seized dozens
of pot plants from his home in 1996, and he admitted to
sharing the drug with friends who he said also had seizures.
In a landmark decision on the case in July, 2000, the court
dismissed a Crown appeal of Mr. Parker's exemption, and
ruled that "prohibition on the cultivation and possession of
marijuana is unconstitutional." The judge gave a one-year
deadline before Canada's marijuana possession laws would
legally "lack force and effect." The deadline passed with no
legislative response.
Mr. Parker, who once again faced prosecution for his use of
marijuana, was given a six-month extension, which ended last
week.
Mr. Justice Romain Pitt's latest ruling puts the onus back
on Parliament to recognize the court's earlier decision that
marijuana has medical uses, and protects Mr. Parker from
future prosecution on possession charges.
Mr. Parker, who says a marijuana joint instantly relieves
his symptoms of pallor, grinding teeth and convulsions, had
extensive financial support for his legal bills -- more that
US$25,000 -- from a think tank funded by billionaire
philanthropist George Soros.
He intends to continue his battle against Parliament with
the help of Alan Young, an Osgoode Hall law professor, who
will guide efforts to push new marijuana legislation.
Mr. Parker said he recently took in a two-ounce harvest from
the marijuana plants he grows in a spare bedroom.
Meanwhile, three of five candidates vying to replace Premier
Mike Harris for the leadership of Ontario's law-and-order
Conservative party say they've smoked pot.
Those who admitted it were: Ernie Eves ("Only at Argo
[football] games .. when you had to"), Jim Flaherty ("I
didn't like it") and Chris Stockwell ("I never exhaled").
Those who denied smoking pot were: Tony Clement ("Not even a
cigarette") and Elizabeth Witmer ("I've never had any desire
to do so.")
jbrean@nationalpost.com
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020318/366634.html
JCT: Ha. "He intends to continue his battle with the help of
Alan Young..." We pointed out Justice Pitt had ruled that
the MMAR had failed to comply on time and asked Young to use
Pitt's decision to argue that it's too late to fix and the
law is now dead. He refused! Then he showed up on Parker's
motion to invalidate the law and helped Crown Lara Speirs
set aside Pitt's criminal jurisdiction remedy in a civil
kangaroo court! Wrong Way Young stabbed Parker in the back
in wrong court! Har har har har. Later interesting posts
leading up to Alan Young his betrayal:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/???
293 Crown appeals Parker's medpot extension 3/24
294 Crown's case to cancel Parker's medpot exemption 3/26
APRIL 2002:
297 Parker files for abolition of prohibition 4/2
299 Prohibition abolition delayed, Young saves day 4/5
309 Young gets adjournment for end of prohibition 4/18
311 Prof. Alan Young: Klutz or Saboteur 4/19
313 Judge Chapnik sets aside Parker's exemption 4/19
319 Prof. Young admits Parker sabotage 4/22
337 Judge Feldman reserves on Pitt v Chapnik 4/30
349 Alan Young sabotages Terry's Appeal too 5/7
354 Wants Alan Young disbarred by Law Society 5/9
383 Narc Agent 86: MAXWELL "not-too-SMART" YOUNG 5/26
388 "Wrong Way" Young Caps Court Clutz Career in Crapper 5/27
392 Ganja Gilligan Young goofs Great Gvt-Grass-Grow Grab 5/29
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| Quote: | Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:09:48 -0700
From: willwrld@telus.net (Noreen Evers)
Subject:
NE: If I remember correctly (I used to work as asst |
postmaster) - If a parcel opens accidentally (they do),
then you tape it up and sticker and 2 signatures on it that
the parcel opened accidentally. On a 'suspicious' parcel, :
http://www.canadapost.ca/corporate/about/security/suspicious-e.asp
JCT: Then someone decided to let his expert nose put Canada
Post's courier business at risk. Would you ever send
anything by Canada Post any more once you hear what they did
to Parker. I think it's too late to fix, short of a quick
return of the pot with apology.
But the cops won't give it up any more since the Pitt
exemption doesn't impress them. What a problem for Canada
Post!
So Terry will have to file a Section 24 application for
return of his controlled substance while decrying:
1) Canada Post searching his mail;
2) Having to go to court to get it back.
So, Terry, send an email to rita.late@peelpolice.on.ca
thanking her for the information and asking what date in
2004 your exemption expired. You didn't know. |
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John Turmel drinks his own piss.
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"By the way, he thinks he's shaming me while I think
he's helping spread a message many people will
eventually thank me for. I couldn't ask for a better
plug to bring this natural miraculous healer to
everyone's attention, even if from a demented
lunatic. I'm so not ashamed that I even pee a mug
full and chug it in the DVD put out last year at
http://www.turmelmovie.com so it's not as if I'm not
happy to get the message out."
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