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Moc science forum beginner
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject:
"The Aether and Charges of Charlatanism"
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"The Aether and Charges of Charlatanism"
There have been a significant number of newsposts from individuals who
have equated the suggestion that to assert the existence of the Aether is a
form of charlatanism. These assertions apparently come from the same
individuals who assert that the Special Theory of Relativity has proven that
the Aether does not exist. If they have such a proof, they should present it
since it does not appear to be present in available texts and writings. What
special Relativity does show is that, when observations are limited to those
made with information transfer processes which propagate at a velocity equal
to or less than the speed of light, it is impossible to observe our absolute
velocity through space (i.e.- velocity with respect to the classical Aether.
Only a charlatan would assert that such constitutes a proof that the Aether
does not exist. It should be noted that it is not the proponents of the
Aether who make such a statement, it is the true charlatans, i.e.- the
mathematically trained adherents of conventional physical thought. Dr.
Einstein warned:-"remember gentlemen, we have not proven that the Aether
does not exist, we have merely proven that we do not need it (for
computations)".
The fact of the matter is that, if we accept the Lorentz
Transformations for Length and Time provided by the Special Theory of
Relativity two things become immediately apparent:-
A:- Since the Lorentz Transformation for Velocity, which is length divided
by time, is not unity but rather 1/(1-V^2/C^2) the assertion made by
adherents of Relativity Theory that the velocity of light is the same in all
reference frames can only be true if one uses "rubber" instruments for the
observations, a process which is contrary to all basic principles. The
velocity of light is "a constant" when measured within a given reference
frames. It is not constant for all reference frames when the results of
observations which are corrected by the appropriate Lorentz Transformations
are and transmitted to a common agreed upon "base reference frame". In other
words the velocity of light is "a constant" but it is not necessarily
"constant". Conventional physicists who fail to recognize this distinction
are the true charlatans, not those individuals who are sufficiently astute
to recognize the meaning of the distinction and insist that sound reasoning
be applied to the process.
B:- So far, the only explanation posed for the fact that the velocity of
light is independent of the velocity of its source is that light is a
wavelike disturbance propagating through a medium (e.g.- the classical
Aether) If conventionally trained physicists can provide an alternate
explanation which does not require magic, they should provide it.
C:- The Lorentz Transformation for Velocity shows clearly to an intelligent
mind that it must be possible for an absolute velocity reference frame for
space (e.g.- the classical Aether) to exist.
D:- Once the existence of a single velocity reference frame is shown to be
possible within the confines of Special Relativity, it is possible to devise
a physically realizable experiment which shows that only ONE such reference
frame (e.g.:- the Aether) can exist even if we cannot observe our velocity
with respect to it. (See Section 4.5 of
http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm ).</h4>
Unfortunately it is the mainstream physicists who are the charlatans
and not those who recognize that the thinking of these allegedly mainstream
individuals is screwed up even if where the screwup is not apparent. Those
who would claim the Aether exists are not charlatans, they are individuals
who recognize that mainstream physics is faulty and are looking for a better
set of conclusions.
The source material for this posting may be found in
http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm/ (1997);
http://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm (1987); and
http://einsteinhoax.com/relcor.htm (1997). EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS
TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT
MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY
VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS
ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD
CLASS STATUS.
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avergon@verizon.net science forum Guru Wannabe
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:46 am Post subject:
Re: "The Aether and Charges of Charlatanism"
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"The Aether and Charges of Charlatanism"
There have been a significant number of newsposts from individuals
who
have equated the suggestion that to assert the existence of the Aether
is a
form of charlatanism.
VERGON
I rather think of it as dogmatism.
Moc
These assertions apparently come from the same
individuals who assert that the Special Theory of Relativity has proven
that
the Aether does not exist. If they have such a proof, they should
present it
since it does not appear to be present in available texts and writings.
What
special Relativity does show is that, when observations are limited to
those
made with information transfer processes which propagate at a velocity
equal
to or less than the speed of light, it is impossible to observe our
absolute
velocity through space (i.e.- velocity with respect to the classical
Aether.
Only a charlatan would assert that such constitutes a proof that the
Aether
does not exist. It should be noted that it is not the proponents of the
Aether who make such a statement, it is the true charlatans, i.e.- the
mathematically trained adherents of conventional physical thought. Dr.
Einstein warned:-"remember gentlemen, we have not proven that the
Aether
does not exist, we have merely proven that we do not need it (for
computations)".
The fact of the matter is that, if we accept the Lorentz
Transformations for Length and Time provided by the Special Theory of
Relativity two things become immediately apparent:-
A:- Since the Lorentz Transformation for Velocity, which is length
divided
by time, is not unity but rather 1/(1-V^2/C^2)
VERGON
How did you get that? The correct equation is v' = v sqrt(1- v^2/c^2)
[[Where v' is the observed velocity.]]
Moc
the assertion made by
adherents of Relativity Theory that the velocity of light is the same
in all
reference frames can only be true if one uses "rubber" instruments for
the
observations, a process which is contrary to all basic principles. The
velocity of light is "a constant" when measured within a given
reference
frames. It is not constant for all reference frames when the results of
observations which are corrected by the appropriate Lorentz
Transformations
are and transmitted to a common agreed upon "base reference frame". In
other
words the velocity of light is "a constant" but it is not necessarily
"constant". Conventional physicists who fail to recognize this
distinction
are the true charlatans, not those individuals who are sufficiently
astute
to recognize the meaning of the distinction and insist that sound
reasoning
be applied to the process.
VERGON
In other words you are saying that c is a variable constant. An
inconstant constant is an oxymoron.
A constant BY DEFINITION is constant. You have a way to go, my friend.
M oc
B:- So far, the only explanation posed for the fact that the velocity
of
light is independent of the velocity of its source is that light is a
wavelike disturbance propagating through a medium (e.g.- the classical
Aether) If conventionally trained physicists can provide an alternate
explanation which does not require magic, they should provide it.
VERGON
Can do.
When radiation is emitted it consists of many wavetrains of closely
associated frequencies. Due to the phenomena of superposition these
bunch up into photons.
However, there is formed a GROUP STANDING WAVE that's immobile between
source and observer (See Gausian group waves). The photons are subwaves
that travel back to front at c.
Since the group wave is immobile the photons will always travel at c
relative to the observer.
Moc
C:- The Lorentz Transformation for Velocity shows clearly to an
intelligent
mind that it must be possible for an absolute velocity reference frame
for
space (e.g.- the classical Aether) to exist.
VERGON
I must not be intelligent 'cause I don't see any connection. How does
transforming a velocity establish an aether? Inform me , oh Wise One.
Moc
D:- Once the existence of a single velocity reference frame is shown to
be
possible within the confines of Special Relativity,
VERGON
But that has not been shown, so the rest is invalid.
Moc
it is possible to devise
a physically realizable experiment which shows that only ONE such
reference
frame (e.g.:- the Aether) can exist even if we cannot observe our
velocity
with respect to it. (See Section 4.5 of
http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm ).</h4>
Unfortunately it is the mainstream physicists who are the
charlatans
and not those who recognize that the thinking of these allegedly
mainstream
individuals is screwed up even if where the screwup is not apparent.
Those
who would claim the Aether exists are not charlatans, they are
individuals
who recognize that mainstream physics is faulty and are looking for a
better
set of conclusions.
VERGON
I disagree.
They are dogmatic atavists. |
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