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neo4
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.
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Dirk Van de moortel
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

"neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1148151089.925248.32220@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

The spammers will not go.
You are obviously not familiar with the law of conservation of stupidity.

Dirk Vdm
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Tom Roberts
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

neo wrote:
Quote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.
But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

Do not confuse this newsgroup with physics. Any actual resemblance
between them is strictly coincidental (Smile).

Granted, non-moderated groups have problems, and this one has more than
most.


Tom Roberts
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shevek4@yahoo.com
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Joined: 06 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

Tom Roberts wrote:
Quote:
neo wrote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.
But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

Do not confuse this newsgroup with physics. Any actual resemblance
between them is strictly coincidental (Smile).

Granted, non-moderated groups have problems, and this one has more than
most.



It could be argued that if this NG has more of the problems than most,
it signifies a resurgence in popularity in the field. Although many of
the posts may be "nonsense threads", the conclusion that physics is
dead is likely the wrong one.
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surrealistic-dream@hotmai
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

neo wrote:
Quote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

This NG was setup long ago specifically to attract the ether flies that
buzzed sci.physics. Those flies have infested sci.physics.relativity
ever since. Very little physics gets done here by agreement of both
sides, who both decided that insults are more fun than instruction. So
long as people love to engage in a good brawl this NG will live on.
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YBM
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Posts: 227

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com a écrit :
Quote:
neo wrote:

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.


This NG was setup long ago specifically to attract the ether flies that
buzzed sci.physics. Those flies have infested sci.physics.relativity
ever since. Very little physics gets done here by agreement of both
sides, who both decided that insults are more fun than instruction. So
long as people love to engage in a good brawl this NG will live on.

I would add that for cranks usually education itself is an insult, that
this place is a marvelous place to study crankiness as a cognitive fact,
and that this is not so a dark place : from time to time you could read
interesting points of view on relativity, and that I've seen here *once*
(in 4 or 5 years) a crank who changed his mind.
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Dobri Karagorgov
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

....dies and gets rotten back into the source of live.
live is a cycle, death is purification (return to innosence):
http://dedanoe.tripod.com/maximum-worp.html
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jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

In sci.physics shevek <shevek4@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Tom Roberts wrote:
neo wrote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.
But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

Do not confuse this newsgroup with physics. Any actual resemblance
between them is strictly coincidental (Smile).

Granted, non-moderated groups have problems, and this one has more than
most.



It could be argued that if this NG has more of the problems than most,
it signifies a resurgence in popularity in the field. Although many of
the posts may be "nonsense threads", the conclusion that physics is
dead is likely the wrong one.

It could also be argued that a lot of people haven't a clue what
"physics" is, witness the idiotic postings about scuba diving procedures,
creationism, and botony.

Hence the conclusion there are a lot of idiots out there.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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noshellswill
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Joined: 15 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

On Sat, 20 May 2006 17:31:20 -0700, shevek wrote:

Quote:

Tom Roberts wrote:
neo wrote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.
But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

Do not confuse this newsgroup with physics. Any actual resemblance
between them is strictly coincidental (Smile).

Granted, non-moderated groups have problems, and this one has more than
most.



It could be argued that if this NG has more of the problems than most,
it signifies a resurgence in popularity in the field. Although many of
the posts may be "nonsense threads", the conclusion that physics is
dead is likely the wrong one.


One may argue that ... so much 20-th century physics has been "promoted"
into engineering disciples, and so few recent, novel, compelling
experimental results have been obtained ... and OTOH bimbo_hood has become
so habitual that .......... physics went capute -- titsup -- hasta-LAvista --

except for a few starving east-Euros who can't afford a stock-broker.

nss
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avergon@verizon.net
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Posts: 282

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

Tom roberts said:
Quote:
Do not confuse this newsgroup with physics. Any actual resemblance
between them is strictly coincidental (Smile).

Granted, non-moderated groups have problems, and this one has more than
most.

Amen.
We all know who the flies are that infest this ng. The best thing to do
is just ignore them
and let them chew on each other.

As to the moderated group, it has problems also. It is controlled by
closed minded individuals whose policy is that if anyone has something
to offer other than what they believe, they are (falsely) accused of
being "too speculative" and are squelched.

As to progress, in my opinion that ng is worthless.
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Henri Wilson
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

On 20 May 2006 11:51:30 -0700, "neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

It is true that a large part of physics has been in the doldrums for 100 years
after being sidetracked by the obvious myth that vertical light beams become
diagonal ones in moving frames.
The claim that 'light speed is always 'c' irrespective of the source speed' is
totally meaningless and a most unscientific statement....yet it is worshipped
by a herd of pseudo intellectualls who have been riding on Einsteinian
bandwaggon for years...

The plain fact is that none of the really BIG question has been even remotely
answered by the theories of hoaxers like Einstein.

It is also a plain fact that light takes an amount of time to travel from point
A to point B and the only reference light has at its inception is its source.
In the absence of an absolute spatial reference, identical photons emitted by
differently moving sources cannot possibly retain the same relative positions
as they travel through remote space. What credible 'physical' process could
make them do that?




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Harry
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:c813725lk4accvba02ark60vebvti7m87d@4ax.com...
Quote:
On 20 May 2006 11:51:30 -0700, "neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote:

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

It is true that a large part of physics has been in the doldrums for 100
years
after being sidetracked by the obvious myth that vertical light beams
become
diagonal ones in moving frames.
The claim that 'light speed is always 'c' irrespective of the source
speed' is
totally meaningless and a most unscientific statement....yet it is
worshipped
by a herd of pseudo intellectualls who have been riding on Einsteinian
bandwaggon for years...

The plain fact is that none of the really BIG question has been even
remotely
answered by the theories of hoaxers like Einstein.

It is also a plain fact that light takes an amount of time to travel from
point
A to point B and the only reference light has at its inception is its
source.
In the absence of an absolute spatial reference, identical photons emitted
by
differently moving sources cannot possibly retain the same relative
positions
as they travel through remote space. What credible 'physical' process
could
make them do that?


Easy: an absolute spatial reference (physical, not operational of course)

Harald
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dda1
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Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Posts: 762

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

Henri Wilson wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 22 May 2006 12:44:04 +0200, "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote:


"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:c813725lk4accvba02ark60vebvti7m87d@4ax.com...
On 20 May 2006 11:51:30 -0700, "neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote:

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

It is true that a large part of physics has been in the doldrums for 100
years
after being sidetracked by the obvious myth that vertical light beams
become
diagonal ones in moving frames.
The claim that 'light speed is always 'c' irrespective of the source
speed' is
totally meaningless and a most unscientific statement....yet it is
worshipped
by a herd of pseudo intellectualls who have been riding on Einsteinian
bandwaggon for years...

The plain fact is that none of the really BIG question has been even
remotely
answered by the theories of hoaxers like Einstein.

It is also a plain fact that light takes an amount of time to travel from
point
A to point B and the only reference light has at its inception is its
source.
In the absence of an absolute spatial reference, identical photons emitted
by
differently moving sources cannot possibly retain the same relative
positions
as they travel through remote space. What credible 'physical' process
could
make them do that?


Easy: an absolute spatial reference (physical, not operational of course)

You are an aetherist.

How and where does your aether end?


Harald



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Appropriate message snipping is considerate and painless.


Ha,ha, ha

Harald unmasked.
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Henri Wilson
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

On Mon, 22 May 2006 12:44:04 +0200, "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote:

Quote:

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:c813725lk4accvba02ark60vebvti7m87d@4ax.com...
On 20 May 2006 11:51:30 -0700, "neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote:

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

It is true that a large part of physics has been in the doldrums for 100
years
after being sidetracked by the obvious myth that vertical light beams
become
diagonal ones in moving frames.
The claim that 'light speed is always 'c' irrespective of the source
speed' is
totally meaningless and a most unscientific statement....yet it is
worshipped
by a herd of pseudo intellectualls who have been riding on Einsteinian
bandwaggon for years...

The plain fact is that none of the really BIG question has been even
remotely
answered by the theories of hoaxers like Einstein.

It is also a plain fact that light takes an amount of time to travel from
point
A to point B and the only reference light has at its inception is its
source.
In the absence of an absolute spatial reference, identical photons emitted
by
differently moving sources cannot possibly retain the same relative
positions
as they travel through remote space. What credible 'physical' process
could
make them do that?


Easy: an absolute spatial reference (physical, not operational of course)

You are an aetherist.

How and where does your aether end?

Quote:

Harald



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Appropriate message snipping is considerate and painless.
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Harry
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Physics is dead! Reply with quote

"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:f5i472pn1bmoaubpv45rmc9rk21k92004j@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 22 May 2006 12:44:04 +0200, "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
news:c813725lk4accvba02ark60vebvti7m87d@4ax.com...
On 20 May 2006 11:51:30 -0700, "neo" <0voyager0@gmail.com> wrote:

I see nonsense threads, spam in these ngs. When some ng dies, it gets
rotten and like rotten dead body attract flies, spammers are sitting
on
this dead ng.

But after some time, these spammers will also go and physics will be
exinct like dinasauras.

It is true that a large part of physics has been in the doldrums for
100
years
after being sidetracked by the obvious myth that vertical light beams
become
diagonal ones in moving frames.
The claim that 'light speed is always 'c' irrespective of the source
speed' is
totally meaningless and a most unscientific statement....yet it is
worshipped
by a herd of pseudo intellectualls who have been riding on Einsteinian
bandwaggon for years...

The plain fact is that none of the really BIG question has been even
remotely
answered by the theories of hoaxers like Einstein.

It is also a plain fact that light takes an amount of time to travel
from
point
A to point B and the only reference light has at its inception is its
source.
In the absence of an absolute spatial reference, identical photons
emitted
by
differently moving sources cannot possibly retain the same relative
positions
as they travel through remote space. What credible 'physical' process
could make them do that?


Easy: an absolute spatial reference (physical, not operational of course)

You are an aetherist.

How and where does your aether end?

You asked a question as if you had forgotten the answer and I reminded you
of it. That's all.
I can't help it if you are in denial, this isn't a psychiatry group (even if
it sometimes looks like it)!

Harald
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