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John Turmel
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 Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:30 am Post subject:
TURMEL: Alan Young for Goodwin's "major" "worthless" case
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JCT: Professeur Saboteur Alan Young who provided the
Government with the our side's Wakeford Loser, Hitzig loser,
Clay-Caine-Malmo-Levine loser, is now at work on the Goodwin
loser.
| Quote: | NEW charges laid on the Hamilton Hash Mob
Date: #1247931 - Thu May 18 2006 11:05 AM
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We have just recieved word from Det. Gauvin of the Hamilton
Police Force that Chris Goodwin and John Anderson have also
been charged under CDSA 292(2) Paraphanelia for unused
medical assistance devices such as bongs, scales, and
posters seized from Up In Smoke on April 21st 2006. This is
Chris' only charge from the events of 4/20. This is John's
7th. The total charges laid are:
Adam Glover - Trafficking x9
Matt Mernagh - Trafficking x2
John Anderson - Posession x2, Trafficking x2, Proceeds of
Crime x1 and Paraphanelia x1
Chris Goodwin - Paraphanelia x1
Alan Young has agreed to help us on these new charges as
well and we are going to QUASH the law!
Free the Hamilton Hash Mob Adam www.freeadam.ca
JCT: Quash the bong law, not the prohibition law. After
going "to Parker's hearing to ensure Turmel's motion to
invalidate the law would not proceed," successfully, and
after his Hitzig case has been accepted by the judiciary as
having successfully brought the law back to life at the same
time our Parker-Turmel-Third-Guy case got it's earlier death
acknowledged, he wouldn't start aiming at the real law now.
He's aiming at an auxiliary law.
| Quote: | Marc Scott Emery The Prince of Pot
Re: NEW charges laid on the Hamilton Hash Mob
Date: #1247992 - Thu May 18 2006 01:27 PM
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JCT: Marc The Narc, Prince of Rot, Emery offers an opinion:
POR: But as someone convicted of section 462.2 many times, I
assure you it is still there. Alan Young overturned the
literature provisions of 462.2 in 1995, so now all books,
video, magazines, POSTERS are legal, but the court only
struck out the words "literature" and "video" from the law,
not "instruments" of illicit drug use.
All pipes and bongs in Canada are illegal but when we
started the Hemp Store movement in 1994 (after all the
'head' shops were forced out of business in 1987 when 462.2
was passed with only one dissenting vote - Svend Robinson's)
we gave handling pipes & bongs a political context.
Only stores that get raided for seeds, pot, get their pipes
& bongs taken. Otherwise, over 1,000 stores in Canada handle
pipes and bongs again. You can thank the 1994-1996 movement
people for that. People like me, Mike Spindloe (Vinyl
Exhange, Saskatoon), Great Canadian Hemporium, for loudly
protesting in court and on the street each raid for pipes
and bongs. It created a safety zone for stores selling these
items as police were ready for confrontations in every
community.
JCT: Remember, Young never actually challenged the law, only
off-target goals that hardly matter.
POR: Alan Young is a great lawyer.
JCT: For the prohibition establishment's cause!
POR: He is charging the Hamilton Hash Mob very little. If
you have some money, please send it to Alan Young in Trust
on behalf of the Hamilton Hash Mob.
JCT: They got Marco Renda to finance his Hitzig case which
resurrected the law on the very day we got it declared dead
2 years earlier, maybe they can get Marco to finance this
loser too?
POR: He is a great and talented lawyer,
JCT: Of all the lawyers in the movement, Wrong-Way Young has
the highest number of losses.
POR: a terrific person and a great human being.
JCT: Just a Court Clutz whose losses keep back-firing or
booby-trapping on his clients!
POR: He has never made a cent on any cannabis activist and
usually loses money when his costs and time are factored in,
JCT: He loses money in his losing cases. And he teaches how
at York University in Toronto! Har har har har. The most
inept court clutz and he teaches.
POR: so please, if you have $25 or $50 or $100, send it to
Alan Young on behalf of our brave soldiers of the Hamilton
Hash Mob. Marc Scott Emery (Thu May 18 2006 01:28 PM)
JCT: The Cannabis Vulture pushing the Medpot Court Clutz.
Remember, Emery's the publisher who didn't tell Canada's
exemptees that their family doctor could now get them time
extensions on applying for their MMAR exemptions and let
them all hit the expiry wall because the win came from one
of my cases. Can't be publishing Turmel wins as he's lauding
the lawyer for only minor losses and major losses.
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| Quote: | From: goodster Up In Smoke Cafe
Date: #1248133 - Thu May 18 2006 07:39 PM
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Quote: All pipes and bongs in Canada are illegal under 462.2
but when we started the Hemp Store movement in 1994 we gave
handling pipes & bongs a political context.
CG: Just to bring that political comment a little more into
context, that was before Sec 56 Exemptions, MMAR
Applications and a Senate Report outlining Medical Smoking
Devices.
Alan Young just finished a trial in New Market arguing
462.2, with a judgement coming out in the next couple weeks.
JCT: A second "Young for legal bongs" trial going on.
CG: But this was only argued in a lower Provincial court
and will not make any precidence, regardless of the outcome.
JCT: Another of Young's "no matter" cases to lose or win.
CG: It is assumed the Crown will not appeal if Alan wins
therefor leaving it as a worthless decision with no
requirement for any other judge to be bound by it.
JCT: Another of Young's worthless challenges.
CG: Though John Anderson and I are clearly not medical
users, it will be argued in a higher court that without an
exemption process for medical devices under the MMAR, 462.2
is unconstitutional and therefor of no force and effect and
if we win will be precedent setting in Ontario.
JCT: The fight to legalize pipes.
CG: Sharing joints can also be argued in a similar way. For
instance, Janice from the Up In Smoke Cafe who has an MMAR
and is severely disabled, needs others to administer her
marijuana for her. Forcing a Legal Medical Marijuana Patient
to have others traffic marijuana to assist her opens up a
legal argument for "sharing" to be removed from the criminal
code under trafficking.
JCT: "Assisting" should mean "sharing?"
CG: As well, sharing is "deminimus" and broadly applied.
Further arguments fallow around The Malmo-Levine case, in
which possession was said to be having "no risk of jail
time" but when sharing a joint under "Joint Possession"
cases constitutes trafficking, the harm principle is being
misapplied.
The most promising arguments have to remain secret for now
until such time as we feel we can safely disclose them.
JCT: Ganja Gilligan Young has some "secret arguments" up his
sleeve. I'll bet they backfire.
CG: But trust me when I tell everyone here that we have a
Major Case ahead of us with over two years of work ahead.
JCT: A major case for a "worthless" goal.
CG: Though Alan is not billing us as much as it should cost,
the costs will still be in the tens of thousands, and any
support given will be very appreciated and will go very far
to killing the law. Thanks for everyones help...
Chris Goodwin
JCT: Unfortunately, despite the Professeur Saboteur's dismal
record losing streak that has so harmed the abolitionist
movement, Chris Goodwin has chosen to pay Court Clutz Young
to make a "major" effort to win this "worthless" case. |
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:13 am Post subject:
John Turmel drinks HIS OWN piss.
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"By the way, he thinks he's shaming me while I think
he's helping spread a message many people will
eventually thank me for. I couldn't ask for a better
plug to bring this natural miraculous healer to
everyone's attention, even if from a demented
lunatic. I'm so not ashamed that I even pee a mug
full and chug it in the DVD put out last year at
http://www.turmelmovie.com so it's not as if I'm not
happy to get the message out."
John "Piss Boy" Turmel |
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