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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !!

it is based among others , as well , on my new unprecedented
proof

that the photon has a nonzero rest mass.!


copyright Y.Porat 18-05-06

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T Wake
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Y.Porat wrote:
NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !!

it is based among others , as well , on my new unprecedented
proof

There is nothing unprecedented about ignoring reality.


that the photon has a nonzero rest mass.!

Interestingly enough, you still can't show me an experiment that shows
the photon has rest mass. Hell, you can't even show me a photon in its'
rest state.



copyright Y.Porat 18-05-06

Israel ratified the Berne convention so you don't have to do that.

Plus just running a spell check on everything you have ever written
would not apply because it would be a derivative work.

Can you imagine how long it would take for the spell check to finish....
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !!

it is based among others , as well , on my new unprecedented
proof

Look up the word "proof."

Quote:
that the photon has a nonzero rest mass.!

Whatever.
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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

and where is dda 1 and dda2 and Varney
and the student of the Alaska university ??
why they keep quite ??
(probably they agree with me !!

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T Wake
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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and where is dda 1 and dda2 and Varney
and the student of the Alaska university ??
why they keep quite ??
(probably they agree with me !!

I thought both Eric and I were Varney?
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:
Quote:
NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !!

it is based among others , as well , on my new unprecedented
proof

that the photon has a nonzero rest mass.!


copyright Y.Porat 18-05-06

ATB
Y.Porat
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What about the Coulomb force?
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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

what about Coulomb force ???

may be you enlight us ??

TIA
Y.Porat

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Golden Boar
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:
Quote:
what about Coulomb force ???

may be you enlight us ??

TIA
Y.Porat

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You said, "NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! "

I will keep it simple so you don't get confused.

F = q1 * q2 / (4 * pi * e0 * r^2)

where,

F is the force,
q1 and q2 are charges,
e0 is the electric constant,
r^2 is the distance between the charges.

Do you see any mass there?
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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

see the' coulomb' value in Google
for instance in the Vikipedia

Gisse please tell Boar that the Coulomb contains mass ........


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Golden Boar
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:
Quote:
see the' coulomb' value in Google
for instance in the Vikipedia

Gisse please tell Boar that the Coulomb contains mass ........


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Hahahaha. Someone help, this guy's killing me!
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:
Quote:
see the' coulomb' value in Google
for instance in the Vikipedia

Gisse please tell Boar that the Coulomb contains mass ........

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html

You are an idiot.

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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

read it carefully
the section about coulomb

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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Eric Gisse wrote:
Quote:
Y.Porat wrote:
see the' coulomb' value in Google
for instance in the Vikipedia

Gisse please tell Boar that the Coulomb contains mass ........

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html

You are an idiot.


now everty body is going to see that you are
a fucken Nazi s**t and disturbed imbecile

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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

Here is a little quote for you from Vikipedia""


quote:
Definition
1 coulomb is the amount of electric charge carried by a current of 1
ampere flowing for 1 second.

It can also be defined in terms of capacitance and voltage, where one
coulomb is defined as one farad of capacitance times one volt of
electric potential difference:

[edit]
Explanation
The coulomb is also the unit of electric flux. (See Gauss Law.)
The coulomb could in principle be defined in terms of the charge of an
electron or elementary charge. Since the values of the Josephson (CIPM
(1988) Recommendation 1, PV 56; 19) and von Klitzing (CIPM (1988),
Recommendation 2, PV 56; 20) constants have been given conventional
values (KJ = 4.835 979×1014 Hz/V and RK = 2.581 280 7×104 O), it
is possible to combine these values to form an alternative (not yet
official) definition of the coulomb. A coulomb is then equal to exactly
6.241 509 629 152 65×1018 elementary charges. Combined with the
current definition of the ampere, this proposed definition would make
the kilogram a derived unit.

end of quote

do you know English ??

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! Reply with quote

"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Y.Porat wrote:
| > what about Coulomb force ???
| >
| > may be you enlight us ??
| >
| > TIA
| > Y.Porat
| >
| > ---------------------
|
| You said, "NO MASS NO REAL PHYSICS OF FORCES !! "
|
| I will keep it simple so you don't get confused.
|
| F = q1 * q2 / (4 * pi * e0 * r^2)
|
| where,
|
| F is the force,
| q1 and q2 are charges,
| e0 is the electric constant,
| r^2 is the distance between the charges.
|
| Do you see any mass there?

Sure. In SI units, eps0 ~= 8.85E-12 (seconds^4 amp^2)/(kilogram
meter^3). A farad is coul^2/joule or (A s)^2(s^2/(kg m^2)).

FrediFizzx

Quantum Vacuum Charge papers;
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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