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jstevh@msn.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

And now, because mathematicians fought my mathematical proofs, I've
gone after the factoring problem.

This latest result I am increasingly certain provides the path to a
solution.

Smart money is already moving.

You can deny all you want, but then you can also watch your investments
melt away.

S = (k_1*sqrt(x) + k_2*sqrt(y))*(k_3*sqrt(x) + k_4*sqrt(y))

works because S is the surrogate, and not the target. So the k's are
defined by the factors of the surrogate. Solving everything out gives
you a quartic, but I think the know-how exists to work that quartic,
and find solutions.

If I am right, there are probably people working on the technical
details now, going after the over $300k that RSA is offering.

That ideas can have such a major impact--as already TRILLIONS of
dollars have moved--is something that is beyond most of you as a
concept, as to you mathematics is just some game, a way to make money,
or pass away the time.

But real world, trillions of dollars depend on systems that depend on
mathematics.

Some people are willing to trust, others are not.

I say, the people who know human nature, know that it makes more sense
that mathematicians as a group can lie than that one person can invite
so much attention worldwide, be so cogent, have such dramatic and
concrete results like my prime counting function, and just be "crazy",
so they know to MOVE THEIR MONEY.

And later when it's clear that I am right, they'll know who lied.

The Progress of Humanity is not just some stupid game, some useless
idea that has no meaning. It is not some nothing that has been played
out here, but the future of life on this planet.

It is as big as it gets. This drama is as big as it gets. So a few
trillion dollars here and there, are nothing, in comparison.


James Harris
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Amadeus Train-Owwell Zirc
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

you versus the whacky mathematicians,
round 1536; they just won't give up!

Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

thus:
it's so clear, seeing the grey-
hatched 3x3 submagicsquares, over the white ones;
I meant, there's a border of the smallest boxes,
that "take a number," around the four "extra" 3x3s
meaning also just one box-width between'em.

the ones in the 5x5 "sudoku," aside
from the columns & rows, are "worms" e.g.,
but not exclusively. I'm sure,
you can find a tonnage of this stuff
on the highfalutin'net.

Quote:
it's the 9x9 with 3x3 submagicsquares,
with the addition of 4 *more* 3x3s, placed so that
there's a "border" of empty boxes all around them;
makes it sort of 4-dimensional, and also quicker to solve.

--it takes some to jitterbug!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/Amplitude.W05.pdf
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2006/3322_ethanol_no_science.html
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
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Frreita
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

<jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1150163692.939767.271690@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

And now, because mathematicians fought my mathematical proofs, I've
gone after the factoring problem.

This latest result I am increasingly certain provides the path to a
solution.

Smart money is already moving.

You can deny all you want, but then you can also watch your investments
melt away.

S = (k_1*sqrt(x) + k_2*sqrt(y))*(k_3*sqrt(x) + k_4*sqrt(y))

works because S is the surrogate, and not the target. So the k's are
defined by the factors of the surrogate. Solving everything out gives
you a quartic, but I think the know-how exists to work that quartic,
and find solutions.

you are all wrong James, this equation calculates how much the Stock market
goes up or down depending upon Time.

Stockmarket (S),
k_1 is time about 6 months ago,
k_2 is time about 3 months ago
k_3 is time today
k_4 is time three days from now (negitive time)
x is the total delta change funcion between k_1, k_2 and, k_4
y is the total sum less effects of x delta through k_3, k_1 and k_2

This simple equation directly ditactes what the stock market WILL do, I bet
your shirt on it.
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Johnny Bravo
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

On 12 Jun 2006 18:54:53 -0700, jstevh@msn.com wrote:

Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

<List of numbers that you've factored with your "proven results">

<End List>

Seems you're a lot longer on claims than results.
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Virgil
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

In article <448e2d14$0$16468$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
"Amiey" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:

Quote:
jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1150163692.939767.271690@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot

The notion that JSH's crackpottery is of sufficient importance to affect
the stock market is his best joke yet !!!!
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Frreita
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
In article <448e2d14$0$16468$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
"Amiey" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote:

jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1150163692.939767.271690@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot

The notion that JSH's crackpottery is of sufficient importance to affect
the stock market is his best joke yet !!!!

JSH is stuck on Saragoat factering, but he really has an equation that
dictates the stock market up or down, true, but he dosent realize it.
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Gordon Burditt
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

I think it is far more likely a vote of no-confidence in a government
that can't manage to keep the personal information of veterans,
active duty military, and contract employees working on nuclear
energy secure. When was the last report that authorities caught
someone using Bin Laden's credit card?

Or it might be simply that there is a rumor going around that Dick
Cheney reloaded. Or that gas prices are going up again.

Quote:
Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

What numbers have you factored?

Quote:
And now, because mathematicians fought my mathematical proofs, I've
gone after the factoring problem.

This latest result I am increasingly certain provides the path to a
solution.

Unlike some math tests, there is no partial credit if you don't
come up with an answer.

Gordon L. Burditt
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David C. Ullrich
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

On 12 Jun 2006 18:54:53 -0700, jstevh@msn.com wrote:

Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

If you're not joking then you've gone completely crazy.

Seriously - if you're joking here then never mind, but if
you're serious then you need to know that you've lost
all contact with reality.



************************

David C. Ullrich
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Salami Man
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

LOL if someone were to actually come up with a legitimate way to factor
numbers, and post it on sci.crypt. The first reaction would be, "oh, it's
just JSH again".
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José Carlos Santos
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

On 13-06-2006 11:05, David C. Ullrich wrote:

Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

If you're not joking then you've gone completely crazy.

Seriously - if you're joking here then never mind, but if
you're serious then you need to know that you've lost
all contact with reality.

How many years ago?

Best regards,

Jose Carlos Santos
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Andrew Poelstra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Listening to investors Reply with quote

On 2006-06-13, Salami Man <SalamiMan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
LOL if someone were to actually come up with a legitimate way to factor
numbers, and post it on sci.crypt. The first reaction would be, "oh, it's
just JSH again".


Nah. If someone actually had a solution, they'd probably post some examples
of numbers they'd factored.

Or at the very least pretend to do their own work...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: JSH: Listening to investors Reply with quote

jstevh@msn.com wrote:
Quote:
While it may be a coincidence it's also possible that the recent drop
in world stock markets is a vote of no-confidence in mathematicians.

Investors may simply not be so willing to continue to trust a society
that has spent so much time labeling someone like me, a crackpot, when
in fact, I have more than enough proven results to back up my claims.

And now, because mathematicians fought my mathematical proofs, I've
gone after the factoring problem.

This latest result I am increasingly certain provides the path to a
solution.

Smart money is already moving.

You can deny all you want, but then you can also watch your investments
melt away.

S = (k_1*sqrt(x) + k_2*sqrt(y))*(k_3*sqrt(x) + k_4*sqrt(y))

works because S is the surrogate, and not the target. So the k's are
defined by the factors of the surrogate. Solving everything out gives
you a quartic, but I think the know-how exists to work that quartic,
and find solutions.

If I am right, there are probably people working on the technical
details now, going after the over $300k that RSA is offering.

That ideas can have such a major impact--as already TRILLIONS of
dollars have moved--is something that is beyond most of you as a
concept, as to you mathematics is just some game, a way to make money,
or pass away the time.

But real world, trillions of dollars depend on systems that depend on
mathematics.

Some people are willing to trust, others are not.

I say, the people who know human nature, know that it makes more sense
that mathematicians as a group can lie than that one person can invite
so much attention worldwide, be so cogent, have such dramatic and
concrete results like my prime counting function, and just be "crazy",
so they know to MOVE THEIR MONEY.

And later when it's clear that I am right, they'll know who lied.

The Progress of Humanity is not just some stupid game, some useless
idea that has no meaning. It is not some nothing that has been played
out here, but the future of life on this planet.

It is as big as it gets. This drama is as big as it gets. So a few
trillion dollars here and there, are nothing, in comparison.


James Harris

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