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gb7648
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 Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:37 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
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That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
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gb7648
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:43 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
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You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest. |
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gb7648
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:06 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest.
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Perhaps the core of the Earth is made of iron and very heavy,
which would make the gravitational surface of Earth lower.
If gravity proportionally weakens toward the nucleus (given the
substance is of the same matter), then gravity is canceled out
near the core of the galaxy (as gravity can be canceled out
at the center of Earth). Also, not orbits but swirling guides
our galaxy (think a huge solar system of millions of stars,
but without the Sun in the center, as a hurricane, the
energy is not in the orbit but in the swirling). The neutralized
gravitational effects in the core of the galaxy may forbid
a black hole to form, rather dust and gass moves in
a region which lacks gravitational forces, similar to how
clouds move around a hurricane's eye. Without gravity the
forces are pure inertial. Gravity is lost near the center of
the galaxy. |
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gb7648
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:13 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest.
Perhaps the core of the Earth is made of iron and very heavy,
which would make the gravitational surface of Earth lower.
If gravity proportionally weakens toward the nucleus (given the
substance is of the same matter), then gravity is canceled out
near the core of the galaxy (as gravity can be canceled out
at the center of Earth). Also, not orbits but swirling guides
our galaxy (think a huge solar system of millions of stars,
but without the Sun in the center, as a hurricane, the
energy is not in the orbit but in the swirling). The neutralized
gravitational effects in the core of the galaxy may forbid
a black hole to form, rather dust and gass moves in
a region which lacks gravitational forces, similar to how
clouds move around a hurricane's eye. Without gravity the
forces are pure inertial. Gravity is lost near the center of
the galaxy.
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Backwards is what I found. Imagine, Herb, how old are you?
And you found out today, that all your life you thought it
backwards. If you realize I may be right. |
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gb7648
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:14 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest.
Perhaps the core of the Earth is made of iron and very heavy,
which would make the gravitational surface of Earth lower.
If gravity proportionally weakens toward the nucleus (given the
substance is of the same matter), then gravity is canceled out
near the core of the galaxy (as gravity can be canceled out
at the center of Earth). Also, not orbits but swirling guides
our galaxy (think a huge solar system of millions of stars,
but without the Sun in the center, as a hurricane, the
energy is not in the orbit but in the swirling). The neutralized
gravitational effects in the core of the galaxy may forbid
a black hole to form, rather dust and gass moves in
a region which lacks gravitational forces, similar to how
clouds move around a hurricane's eye. Without gravity the
forces are pure inertial. Gravity is lost near the center of
the galaxy.
Backwards is what I found. Imagine, Herb, how old are you?
And you found out today, that all your life you thought it
backwards. If you realize I may be right.
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Aand what's best, that if its truly backwards, there may not
be a black hole, but perhaps a white hole instead.
But you can only find out why if you ask me to explain. |
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gb7648
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Posts: 606
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:22 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest.
Perhaps the core of the Earth is made of iron and very heavy,
which would make the gravitational surface of Earth lower.
If gravity proportionally weakens toward the nucleus (given the
substance is of the same matter), then gravity is canceled out
near the core of the galaxy (as gravity can be canceled out
at the center of Earth). Also, not orbits but swirling guides
our galaxy (think a huge solar system of millions of stars,
but without the Sun in the center, as a hurricane, the
energy is not in the orbit but in the swirling). The neutralized
gravitational effects in the core of the galaxy may forbid
a black hole to form, rather dust and gass moves in
a region which lacks gravitational forces, similar to how
clouds move around a hurricane's eye. Without gravity the
forces are pure inertial. Gravity is lost near the center of
the galaxy.
Backwards is what I found. Imagine, Herb, how old are you?
And you found out today, that all your life you thought it
backwards. If you realize I may be right.
Aand what's best, that if its truly backwards, there may not
be a black hole, but perhaps a white hole instead.
But you can only find out why if you ask me to explain.
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Genius scientist: "That's impossible. Then the gravitational
surface is lower." |
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gb7648
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:43 am Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb You have your information backwards. Earth poles closer to the
center of the Earth makes gravity a half percent greater there Galaxy
core having a BH at its center,again proves you wrong Bert
That's not possible. Rethink. You are at the center of Earth.
How could you have gravity there? Which direction.
Now you step up. There is a tiny gravity. Its proportionally
growing
toward the surface.
You should weigh heavier on Mount Everest, thought the higher
you move toward space the lighter you get. The lower you move
from the surface the lighter you get. At the surface you should
weigh
the heaviest.
Perhaps the core of the Earth is made of iron and very heavy,
which would make the gravitational surface of Earth lower.
If gravity proportionally weakens toward the nucleus (given the
substance is of the same matter), then gravity is canceled out
near the core of the galaxy (as gravity can be canceled out
at the center of Earth). Also, not orbits but swirling guides
our galaxy (think a huge solar system of millions of stars,
but without the Sun in the center, as a hurricane, the
energy is not in the orbit but in the swirling). The neutralized
gravitational effects in the core of the galaxy may forbid
a black hole to form, rather dust and gass moves in
a region which lacks gravitational forces, similar to how
clouds move around a hurricane's eye. Without gravity the
forces are pure inertial. Gravity is lost near the center of
the galaxy.
Backwards is what I found. Imagine, Herb, how old are you?
And you found out today, that all your life you thought it
backwards. If you realize I may be right.
Aand what's best, that if its truly backwards, there may not
be a black hole, but perhaps a white hole instead.
But you can only find out why if you ask me to explain.
Genius scientist: "That's impossible. Then the gravitational
surface is lower."
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I thought it through. Gravity does not grow once moving toward
the center of Earth and passing the gravitational surface. Past
that point, your weight weakens proportionally as you approach
the planet's center. Finding a galaxy's gravitational surface
may be hard. |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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gb A 199lb man would be his weight at the Earth's equator ,and he would
weigh 200lb at the North Pole. The North Pole is 13 miles closer to the
Earth's center. This is the reason a balance scale is better than a
spring scale. Bert |
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gb6724
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb A 199lb man would be his weight at the Earth's equator ,and he would
weigh 200lb at the North Pole. The North Pole is 13 miles closer to the
Earth's center. This is the reason a balance scale is better than a
spring scale. Bert
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That's because weight grows until it reaches the gravitational
surface,
which could be a third way to the center of Earth, depending on
how heavy the core is. From that point on, gravity and weight of a
person weakens gradually to zero, until it reacheas the center of
Earth.
My point was that the Galaxy may have a similar effect applied to
the core, meaning there is no attraction, especially if gravitational
forces have neutralizing effects, then a black hole is not possible
in the center of our galaxy. Instead, a hurricane like opening exists
where gas and dust moves more atmospherically than as a solar
object. That Einstein's physics do not apply as gravity has
neutralizing
effects, not only pulling effects. Gravitational forces in the center
of Earth cancel out from opposite directions. From the weakened
gravity, matter is able to flow freely, and that kind of flowing
freely
effect is happening in the center of the galaxy, without collapse to
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gb6724
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Describing the spiral galaxy nucleus
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| Quote: | gb A 199lb man would be his weight at the Earth's equator ,and he would
weigh 200lb at the North Pole. The North Pole is 13 miles closer to the
Earth's center. This is the reason a balance scale is better than a
spring scale. Bert
That's because weight grows until it reaches the gravitational
surface,
which could be a third way to the center of Earth, depending on
how heavy the core is. From that point on, gravity and weight of a
person weakens gradually to zero, until it reacheas the center of
Earth.
My point was that the Galaxy may have a similar effect applied to
the core, meaning there is no attraction, especially if gravitational
forces have neutralizing effects, then a black hole is not possible
in the center of our galaxy. Instead, a hurricane like opening exists
where gas and dust moves more atmospherically than as a solar
object. That Einstein's physics do not apply as gravity has
neutralizing
effects, not only pulling effects. Gravitational forces in the center
of Earth cancel out from opposite directions. From the weakened
gravity, matter is able to flow freely, and that kind of flowing
freely
effect is happening in the center of the galaxy, without collapse to
a black hole.
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Here, a picture of a spiral galaxy center.
http://aether.lbl.gov/www/projects/neutrino/AGN/NGC4261torus.gif
As I described, there is gas and dust, no black hole, an eye
like a hurricane's eye, going round and round. The galaxy doesn't
have an atmosphere like hurricanes, but the forces are visible
as the extend in spiraling tails, just like in a hurricale.
The picture has a confusing light in the center, could be a
sun in the way of the picture, or something there, very
bright, lighting the gas. By elementary physics, the region
would be a black hole. But we can see it all. Scientists
speculate that the black hole is inside the torus.
I propose there is no such thing there, as the energy of spiral
galaxies are not in the galactic orbit of suns, but in the swirling
of the system, which opposes matter formation in the center
of the eye, and this explanation clearly refutes black holes in the
center of spiral galaxies.
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject:
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gb You do now know you weigh more at the poles. Try using quantum
gravity at the exact center of the Earth. It works better than curved
space quantum gravity tells us its particle force. That means with
particles all around you you would have a complete balance of gravity
attracting you in all directions.at the center You can't go up down or
sideways. You float. Its tricky but we are held from going down by the
Earth's surface. You can say the surface is pushing up with the same
force gravity is pushing down. You can use Pauli'[s principle why the
Earth'[s surface has this feature. Gravities force has to be measured
from center to center. Reality is NASA forgot this and there goes
another billion dollars down the drain Bert |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject:
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gb Black holes are at the center of galaxies. They are dark matter and
are pretty large as black holes go. They help shape spiral galaxies and
must have the gravity force of 10 million Suns. Still that is not enough
gravity to hold a galaxy together. It needs 90% more. That is the
missing 90% of the universe. Bert |
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