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kacherian
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 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:41 am Post subject:
Diamonds in the Spring of 2006?
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Spring 2006 is about to be over, Uncle Al!
Any news on your diamond synthesis experiments you would like to
share...?!
KAC
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From: Thomas Johnson - view profile
Date: Wed, Sep 7 2005 12:35 am
Email: "Thomas Johnson" <thomas_johnso...@hotmail.com>
Groups: sci.materials
Uncle Al wrote:
| Quote: | kacherian wrote:
How're your diamond synthesis experiments getting on, Uncle Al?
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> Spring 2006. I've got equipment and consummables in hand.... |
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Evgenij Barsukov
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:
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kacherian wrote:
| Quote: | Spring 2006 is about to be over, Uncle Al!
Any news on your diamond synthesis experiments you would like to
share...?!
KAC
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From: Thomas Johnson - view profile
Date: Wed, Sep 7 2005 12:35 am
Email: "Thomas Johnson" <thomas_johnso...@hotmail.com
Groups: sci.materials
Uncle Al wrote:
kacherian wrote:
How're your diamond synthesis experiments getting on, Uncle Al?
Spring 2006. I've got equipment and consummables in hand....
Uncle is apparently living in the lab, I have not seen his postings |
for a while...
Regards,
Evgenij |
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Uncle Al
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Uncle Al
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:57 am Post subject:
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Evgenij Barsukov wrote:
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kacherian wrote:
Spring 2006 is about to be over, Uncle Al!
Any news on your diamond synthesis experiments you would like to
share...?!
KAC
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From: Thomas Johnson - view profile
Date: Wed, Sep 7 2005 12:35 am
Email: "Thomas Johnson" <thomas_johnso...@hotmail.com
Groups: sci.materials
Uncle Al wrote:
kacherian wrote:
How're your diamond synthesis experiments getting on, Uncle Al?
Spring 2006. I've got equipment and consummables in hand....
Uncle is apparently living in the lab, I have not seen his postings
for a while...
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I had it all figured out! I was going to pursue technical
incompetence exercising intellectual irresponsibility, but my golf
handicap was not low enough for management or politics. Pity.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz3.pdf |
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Thomas Johnson
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Evgenij Barsukov
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject:
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Btw aren't they already making gem-quality diamonds
in mass production? What do you think about this:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html
Anyway, I don't disagree that any chemical way of producing
diamonds would be extremely interesting from purely scientific
point of view, so good luck to Uncle.
Regards,
Evgenij |
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Thomas Johnson
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Diamonds in the Spring of 2006?
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Evgenij Barsukov wrote:
| Quote: | Btw aren't they already making gem-quality diamonds
in mass production? What do you think about this:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html
Anyway, I don't disagree that any chemical way of producing
diamonds would be extremely interesting from purely scientific
point of view, so good luck to Uncle.
Regards,
Evgenij
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Here is the usual sequence of events
1) a thread like this one, "How's the diamond project"
2) a lot of hype about how Mr. Schwartz's idea could revolutionize the
world
3) a silent period around the supposed experiment date
4) a period of time where management, the weather, poor engineering,
etc. are blamed for the lack of success.
5) a period of relative quiet
6) goto (1)
At some point each person who reads the threads has to ask him/herself,
"Do I really believe there is a diamond project, or do I think that
Uncle Al is a bit of a nutter who is trolling for attention."
The number of lies involved (e.g. this it the "third and final"
attempt) make it hard for this reader to believe that the project
really exists.
It is a very successful troll. There are always people waiting to
believe. New people subscribe to the newsgroups every day. If it is
fun for them, great. It obviously serves some need for Mr. Schwartz.
Thomas. |
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Richard Schultz
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 339
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In sci.chem Thomas Johnson <thomas_johnson00@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Here is the usual sequence of events
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: 1) a thread like this one, "How's the diamond project"
: 2) a lot of hype about how Mr. Schwartz's idea could revolutionize the
: world
: 3) a silent period around the supposed experiment date
: 4) a period of time where management, the weather, poor engineering,
: etc. are blamed for the lack of success.
: 5) a period of relative quiet
: 6) goto (1)
You left out step 4.5 (between 4 and 5) in which Uncle Al gets in a
high dudgeon about how sci.chem is not worthy of his genius, and that
he will never, ever, post again to sci.chem, leading to the "relative
quiet" of step 5.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience" |
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Evgenij Barsukov
science forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 137
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Diamonds in the Spring of 2006?
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Thomas Johnson wrote:
| Quote: | Evgenij Barsukov wrote:
Btw aren't they already making gem-quality diamonds
in mass production? What do you think about this:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html
Anyway, I don't disagree that any chemical way of producing
diamonds would be extremely interesting from purely scientific
point of view, so good luck to Uncle.
Regards,
Evgenij
Here is the usual sequence of events
1) a thread like this one, "How's the diamond project"
2) a lot of hype about how Mr. Schwartz's idea could revolutionize the
world
3) a silent period around the supposed experiment date
4) a period of time where management, the weather, poor engineering,
etc. are blamed for the lack of success.
5) a period of relative quiet
6) goto (1)
At some point each person who reads the threads has to ask him/herself,
"Do I really believe there is a diamond project, or do I think that
Uncle Al is a bit of a nutter who is trolling for attention."
The number of lies involved (e.g. this it the "third and final"
attempt) make it hard for this reader to believe that the project
really exists.
It is a very successful troll. There are always people waiting to
believe. New people subscribe to the newsgroups every day. If it is
fun for them, great. It obviously serves some need for Mr. Schwartz.
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Well, I know Uncle and his project since the early 90s, so I am well
aware of what you are saying. But nutters and crazy ideas are integral
part of usenet, and some of them are becoming extinct. So we need to
nurture and preserve whatever is left rather than bluntly shut them up
like they recently did with that wandering bear in germany.
If fact I used to be collecting the crazy ideas from russian usenet
philosophy in a "detander park", kind of a zoo for these animals. It was
quite entertaining for a while but last years I have noticed a marked
decrease in idea-generation activity.
Regards,
Evgenij |
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