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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Are aether and energy the same thing?

If humankind lived in the quantum world space energy would be its stars
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 Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Are aether and energy the same thing? Space and time Space and gravity Space and waves. Space and fluctuations are all sides to the 4 dimensions Bert
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Are aether and energy the same thing?

Hello Laurent. Ah! "re-direction of inertia" stated with discipline. At
least I think it may be! Lee Pugh
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 Quote: Are aether and energy the same thing? The simple answer is no. The aether contains all the energy available to the universe. As bodies move through empty space, stress-energy tensors around that body automatically adjust according to the existing spacetime conditions at each point in space and time, that's a direct consequence of the continuous nature of the aether. That's the principle behind inertia and momentum. The time a moving body takes to reach thermal equilibrium with its surroundings is directly proportional to the inertia and momentum forces it will experience. Each body's energy requirements is tied to the total energy available to each given point in space and time. Any single quantum of energy can exist only if it is in motion. Field motion becomes matter and matter is energy. If we could stop the motion, matter would go back to being just empty space. The aether itself does not move, matter does, the quantum does. Since motion is not one of the aether's properties, then neither is time, nor change, making it immutable, or, eternal. Time doesn't exist by itself and space can't exist until it is contained, until it is quantized. There can't be space without time or motion, that's why Einstein called it spacetime. You can't talk about size or extension until you have the limits, the boundaries. When I say the universe sits on the aether, I am not saying that the aether exists, I am only saying that it is. Only matter exists, the aether does not. The laws that govern field behavior, the laws that govern quanta, are mediated at the aether level. The aether is where the laws by which the four fundamental forces of Nature behave are set, it is where the speed and direction of propagation of fields is determined. Empty space (aether) is before Guth's Inflationary Universe. For there to be a field, empty space (aether) must be stressed, and that stress is the measure of energy. The way that energy behaves is tuned by the total energy available to the universe. That empty space is the plenum into which photons at the edge of the universe move into as fields. Empty space seems infinite because it is infinitely divisible. It isn't matter, that's why Einstein is right when he says the universe is background free. But having the properties it has, empty space seems like the wrong name, so why not call it like that Greek God called Aether. To be, all you need is to be able to act as a force, that's why the aether does not exist as matter, but it is. The aether is physical, yet, it is not matter. Since the speed of light is constant, and since the speed of light is so closely related to the Compton wavelength and the Schwarzschild radius, the universe is the same everywhere, independently from the existing spacetime conditions. That's why a carbon atom will look and behave like a carbon atom anywhere in the universe. Since the aether's energy is finite and infinitely divisible, time, space and therefore matter, will contract and dilate accordingly, while mass [the amount of process] will increase or decrease, automatically adjusting to present spacetime conditions and thermal requirements as matter follows Nature's fundamental laws.
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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Are aether and energy the same thing? Are aether and energy the same thing? The simple answer is no. The aether contains all the energy available to the universe. As bodies move through empty space, stress-energy tensors around that body automatically adjust according to the existing spacetime conditions at each point in space and time, that's a direct consequence of the continuous nature of the aether. That's the principle behind inertia and momentum. The time a moving body takes to reach thermal equilibrium with its surroundings is directly proportional to the inertia and momentum forces it will experience. Each body's energy requirements is tied to the total energy available to each given point in space and time. Any single quantum of energy can exist only if it is in motion. Field motion becomes matter and matter is energy. If we could stop the motion, matter would go back to being just empty space. The aether itself does not move, matter does, the quantum does. Since motion is not one of the aether's properties, then neither is time, nor change, making it immutable, or, eternal. Time doesn't exist by itself and space can't exist until it is contained, until it is quantized. There can't be space without time or motion, that's why Einstein called it spacetime. You can't talk about size or extension until you have the limits, the boundaries. When I say the universe sits on the aether, I am not saying that the aether exists, I am only saying that it is. Only matter exists, the aether does not. The laws that govern field behavior, the laws that govern quanta, are mediated at the aether level. The aether is where the laws by which the four fundamental forces of Nature behave are set, it is where the speed and direction of propagation of fields is determined. Empty space (aether) is before Guth's Inflationary Universe. For there to be a field, empty space (aether) must be stressed, and that stress is the measure of energy. The way that energy behaves is tuned by the total energy available to the universe. That empty space is the plenum into which photons at the edge of the universe move into as fields. Empty space seems infinite because it is infinitely divisible. It isn't matter, that's why Einstein is right when he says the universe is background free. But having the properties it has, empty space seems like the wrong name, so why not call it like that Greek God called Aether. To be, all you need is to be able to act as a force, that's why the aether does not exist as matter, but it is. The aether is physical, yet, it is not matter. Since the speed of light is constant, and since the speed of light is so closely related to the Compton wavelength and the Schwarzschild radius, the universe is the same everywhere, independently from the existing spacetime conditions. That's why a carbon atom will look and behave like a carbon atom anywhere in the universe. Since the aether's energy is finite and infinitely divisible, time, space and therefore matter, will contract and dilate accordingly, while mass [the amount of process] will increase or decrease, automatically adjusting to present spacetime conditions and thermal requirements as matter follows Nature's fundamental laws.

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