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Art Deco
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Y.Porat <maporat@012.net.il> wrote:

Quote:
Jeff...Relf wrote:
Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from
crap out of me,
both physically ( via paid Hall_Nazis ) and in court.

You serenated to me:
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jeff
i suggest that you will be much shorter withthose Nazies

they do not deserve so many words to wast onthem

2 just note who is responding in addition to 'crank lover ' .........
it si the same s**t humsn being Gisse

Y.P
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Evgenij Barsukov
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: What I hate and what I want Reply with quote

Mr Clarke wrote:
Quote:
"kunzmilan" <kunzmilan@atlas.cz> wrote in message
news:1152002267.565310.135100@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mr Clarke wrote:
"Evgenij Barsukov" <evgenij_b_hate_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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tadchem wrote:
Evgenij Barsukov wrote:

The only reason Life exist is...
Implicit in making such a statement is the assumption that life exists
as the result of an act of reason.

This assumption has never been empirically established.
Not so. We are routinely applying reason to discuss processes
which as such are not necessarily created by any acts of reason.
Any physical law can be used as an example. Life is just one
of such processes. Thermodynamics is an external treatment to all
processes (including Life) therefore it can be used to show why process
takes place.
Here is example of such "why" explanation: Reaction O2 + H2->H20
takes place at given temperature T and pressure P because
change of dG=dH - TdS from left to right is negative under this
conditions.
The same approach can be applied to process "Life", except treatment
will include 3 steps:
1) reaction A + B --> C has dG1<0, however it is slow without
catalyst

2) catalyst L is thermodynamically unstable, e.g.
L + environment --> decomposition products has dG2>0

3) abs(dG1)>abs(dG2) therefore in presence of 1) reaction 2) can
be reversed (excess of dG1 is used to apply work to conteract dG2),
which means L is stabilized as long as A+B are present.

Above 3 points is a formula of Life (which is the conditionally stable
catalyst "L"). Its existence does not require any external "reason".
It does require that thermodynamics laws are correct, however these
laws are purely statistical in their nature and are therefore a-priory
correct.
We do have to apply reason to understand why this process takes place,
however.

Regards,
Evgenij
It is reasonable for me to say then that all forms of life exhibit
motion.
The elaboration to motion would mean more than several million different
possible formulas (or more); this accounts for matter moving within an
elixir
of immaterial forces and cannot be comprehended by the Human Brain.

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Ashley Clarke
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Entropy is the thermodynamical function.
Its definition needs temperature as the integrating factor.
What is the integrating factor of Universe?
If gravitation, how is defined 1 degree of gravitation?
It is dangereous and stupid to generalize outside the range, to treat stars as
if they were molecules.
kunzmilan

I understand Entropy as being the function of loss of heat through a system;
there are many places
it could dissipate to.
Temperature needs to be constructed before it is used as an intregrating
factor; what one thing
makes temperature in the first place?
We cannot use integrating factors to define the universe currently because
our disciplines of
physics (schools) will not allow constants to remain constant. They suggest
everything passes an
entropy stage.
If gravitation could be twisted into degrees celcius to make calculations
easier (for an individual)
then why not? This then has to be re-interpretated back to the disciplined
schools of physics as
something workable. No one has made this possible yet have they?
Dangerous and stupid are not Physics-related but are mere childish name
calling.
For the many years I have been philosophising Perpetual Motion, I have yet to
find an analogy.
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Ashley Clarke
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Ashley,
when entropy is interpreted as "quantity characterizing degrees of freedom
of the system", temperature as such can be eliminated. Of cause
this is not going to be a thermodynamics as we know it because
it would need to be independent from motion as such.
Such complete treatment does not exist yet, however there are some efforts in
its development, loop theory is the most advanced at the moment.
Of cause there will be always problem of normalization factor between
equations you derive "ab initio" and physical quantities.
These normalization factors characterize "our particular" universe
which has evolved as a result of uncounted random events and makes
it unique.

Regards,
EVgenij
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T Wake
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1152100190.803257.251150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

Jeff...Relf wrote:
Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from
crap out of me,
both physically ( via paid Hall_Nazis ) and in court.

You serenated to me:
---------------------
jeff
i suggest that you will be much shorter withthose Nazies

they do not deserve so many words to wast onthem

2 just note who is responding in addition to 'crank lover ' .........
it si the same s**t humsn being Gisse


I am replying as well. Oh yeah. You think we are the same person don't you.
Well, while I am sure it is nicer for you ego to think that it isn't a case
of EVERYONE thinking you are mad - you like to pretend everyone is the same
person.

Sadly, and you may need to speak to your therapist about this, we aren't all
the same person. I notice with great amusement that Jeff is starting to
suffer from this delusion as well know.
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T Wake
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Jul_5_1ykE@Cotse.NET...
Quote:
Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from

You write supposedly complex and accurate financial models and you charge
$600 per month. Amazing. You are either so monumentally stupid that the
world is laughing at you or so abysmally bad at coding that all your work
has to be redone.

I suspect it is both.

<remove nonsense>
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T Wake
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: T.A.D. can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds. Reply with quote

"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Jul_4_05e6@Cotse.NET...
Quote:
Hi T_Wake, T.A.D. told me:

You are probably a very lonely person whose greatest hope for lifelong
companionship will be found in a co-dependent relationship with an
insecure masochist of mediocre intelligence.

T.A.D. is convinced that he's the smartest guy who ever lived,
and can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds.
Truth is, he's just another fat-assed homer who who blessed me with his
plonk.

Nah, he got you pretty much on the mark there.
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yt56erd
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:

Quote:
jeff
i suggest that you will be much shorter withthose Nazies

they do not deserve so many words to wast onthem

2 just note who is responding in addition to 'crank lover ' .........
it si the same s**t humsn being Gisse

Y.P

you fucking retarded arab nazi loving s**t eater.

you have even less of a frigging clue than RelfCunt.
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Mr Clarke
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: What I hate and what I want Reply with quote

"Cranks Hunter" <yt56erd@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Radium wrote:
I hate the following entities:


i hate you, you retarded dick.

A retarded dick surely is safer than an exposed errect one.

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Eric Gisse
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Y.Porat wrote:
Quote:
Jeff...Relf wrote:
Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from
crap out of me,
both physically ( via paid Hall_Nazis ) and in court.

You serenated to me:
---------------------
jeff
i suggest that you will be much shorter withthose Nazies

they do not deserve so many words to wast onthem

2 just note who is responding in addition to 'crank lover ' .........
it si the same s**t humsn being Gisse

Stupid crank. Look at the headers.

Quote:

Y.P
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Y.Porat
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Jeff...Relf wrote:
Quote:
Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from
crap out of me,
both physically ( via paid Hall_Nazis ) and in court.

You serenated to me:
---------------------

jeff
i suggest that you will be much shorter withthose Nazies

they do not deserve so many words to wast onthem

2 just note who is responding in addition to 'crank lover ' .........
it si the same s**t humsn being Gisse

Y.P
---------------------
Quote:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Jeff...Relf wrote:

[snip stupidity]

Why do you post this s**t to sci newsgroups? Oh thats right, you are a
moron who can't figure out how to use a medium that has been around for
nearly 30 years of which you have been using for at least 10.
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Jeff…Relf
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Crank_Lover, do you have a home ? Reply with quote

Hi Crank_Lover, I don't have anything like an hourly rate.
I charge USD 600 per month now because my rent/utilities went from
250 per month to 400 ( after I harbored too many homeless people ).
I honestly don't know what motivates me to put in the hours.
Maybe it has to do with how urgently I imagine people need the code.
Motivation has always been a _Serious_ problem for me,
....I'd rather just pork out, getting ever fatter, or waste time here.
I could easily setup numerous people up with fully working computers,
complete with loads of software and WiFi connections ( and get paid ),
....yet I don't do it ( I could also tutor ).
I'd house homeless people but my landlord would beat the crap out of me,
both physically ( via paid Hall_Nazis ) and in court.

You serenated to me:

You are a stupid tit. you cant even work out
how to reply to posts properly. you ignorant cunt.

You don't do so badly. Maybe you could spend more time thinking about
what you really want to say, paraphrasing more and auto-quoting less.
But then you'd be wasting as much time as I do on Usenet.
Perhaps you could read/post via my X.EXE and Visual_Studio
instead of Google. Can you code in C++ for Win_XP ?
Do you have a computer at home ? Do you have a home ?

You told me:

You aren't fucking social because
you are a parasitic leech with no fucking social skills.
No one likes you. you think this makes you cool
but it just marks you are a fucking pathetic looser.

Why would it be cool to have no social skills ? !
Do you get the proverbial Crazy_Check ? Are you happy/content ?

Re: How I was _Forced_ to kick Miranda out, You told me:

I would have broken your wortheless jaw and fingers.

Why, because I was the only one who'd help you in your time of need ?
Are you homeless ? Do you break a lot of jaws ?

You added:

What the f*** did any of that have to do with
your ridiculous " plonk " comment. seriously, how fucking stupid are you ?

I have the computer skills to help lots of people,
but I turn them away... I f*** them off ( I don't know why ).
The more people who plonk me ( in life or Usenet ) the happier I am.

You concluded:

Well if you were actually decent at your frigging job
you would get paid more than minimum wage.
as it stands, people on welfare get more.

I can't get welfare. Even if I did, at 339 a month, it wouldn't pay my rent.
As I said at the start, I don't have an hourly rate.
A dollar is like a vote, and I don't care who votes for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: What I hate and what I want Reply with quote

Radium wrote:
Quote:
I hate the following entities:


i hate you, you retarded dick.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: T.A.D. can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds. Reply with quote

In article <Jeff_Relf_2006_Jul_4_05e6@Cotse.NET>, JeffĶRelf
<Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

Quote:
Hi T_Wake, T.A.D. told me:

You are probably a very lonely person whose greatest hope for lifelong
companionship will be found in a co-dependent relationship with an
insecure masochist of mediocre intelligence.

T.A.D. is convinced that he's the smartest guy who ever lived,
and can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds.
Truth is, he's just another fat-assed homer who who blessed me with his plonk.

Thats really got to you. You hate the fact that people think you're not
worth listening too. Do the girls in the coffee shop smile sweetly
while they tare at their feet waiting for the looney to go away?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: T.A.D. can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds. Reply with quote

Hi T_Wake, T.A.D. told me:

You are probably a very lonely person whose greatest hope for lifelong
companionship will be found in a co-dependent relationship with an
insecure masochist of mediocre intelligence.

T.A.D. is convinced that he's the smartest guy who ever lived,
and can't bare to associate with woman of lesser minds.
Truth is, he's just another fat-assed homer who who blessed me with his plonk.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Here's some more empirical physics for you. Reply with quote

tadchem wrote:

Quote:
CJT wrote:


Mensa can actually be a fun club, especially the National meetings.
You should try it sometime. It's not that hard to get into.


I was invited once. The invitation came from a counselor at my junior
college who had access to my personal file and who "just knew" I would
have no trouble qualifying.

She was someone who commanded very little respect from me. I also
learned their standards were a little too low for me.

I later became a member of TNS (the Triple-Nine Society)
http://www.triplenine.org/
and the Prometheus Society
http://www.prometheussociety.org/
briefly, but I let those lapse.

As a high-functioning autistic personality, I find I have little
personal need or desire for peer 'fellowship.'

I scan this newsgroup as a duty, mostly to help people who genuinely
want and need help with physics/chemistry.

Tom Davidson
Richmond VA


OK, then ...

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