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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: John Turmel drinkie pissy. Reply with quote

"By the way, he thinks he's shaming me while I think
he's helping spread a message many people will
eventually thank me for. I couldn't ask for a better
plug to bring this natural miraculous healer to
everyone's attention, even if from a demented
lunatic. I'm so not ashamed that I even pee a mug
full and chug it in the DVD put out last year at
http://www.turmelmovie.com so it's not as if I'm not
happy to get the message out."
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: TURMEL: Parker's Canada Post Pot seizure Pre-trial Reply with quote

JCT: Judge Andre presiding, Chris Leafloor for the Crown.

After Terry asked the judge if I could speak as his agent
and Chris explained a bit of our history, Judge Andre
granted his permission. Of course, Terry's not facing jail
so there's no jeopardy and an agent may even be permitted
for a section 24 application. Regardless, the Crown know
they are now tangling with me and won't get away with

One mistake I had made in Terry's notice is that I had
forgotten to include my usually standard request explaining
how Terry has the right to audiotape for his notes:

AND TAKE FURTHER NOTICE THAT Applicant seeks approval to
turn on a portable tape recorder pursuant to S.136 of the
Ontario Courts of Justice Act which states that "nothing
prohibits a party acting in person from unobtrusively making
an audio recording of the court hearing for the sole purpose
of supplementing or replacing handwritten notes in the
manner that has been approved by the judge;" or for any
other manner of audio-taping deemed preferable by the court.

JCT: I've only ever one been refused by an older Court of
Appeal judge. But I forgot to include it so the judge would
have read it and I had to wing it. Chris just pointed out
I would be publishing a transcript and I responded it was
more precise than the story out of my memory and notes. But
Judge Andre said we had access to transcripts so he wouldn't
allow it.

Too bad, had he read the actual section, he'd have realized
"nothing prevents" Parker from taping, he only had the power
to object to the how. But too late. So no transcript. The
hearing lasted a good half hour but you only get notes.

I ended my short presentation up to Pitt on the note that it
was granted wearing his criminal jurisdiction hat.

Of course, the Crown's case was that another court had set
aside the Pitt exemption and been backed up all the way. Of
course, we know we requested the Chapnik removal of Parker's
protection be stayed, not the appeal of Chapnik's removal of
his protection itself, but that wasn't distinguished in the
Crown presentation.

And he didn't mention it was in civil courts. I got to
stress how I had earlier ended my presentation on the point
that Justice Pitt's decision was criminal. Now I got to
point out how he had been set aside as a civil default
judgment. "There are no default judgments in criminal law."
Judge Andre's a criminal judge, he should have known there
was something fishy happening by now.

I asked that until Parker was charged, he hold the marijuana
at his home and and he would bring most back to the trial
but the judge said that was the question for the trial judge
and told us to go get a date for the 2-hour trial.

Chris wanted something in December or next year and I wanted
something next month. As the trial co-ordinator was leafing
through the booking list, and she got to December, I asked:
"Are you in December?" "Yes." "That's unacceptable, let's go
see the judge." Instead, she called the judge's clerk and
was told the judge wanted it fast-tracked so she started
looking for a hearing we could be piggy-backed on. Sep 19.

Imagine if this was any other victim having his medicine
withheld while the Crown keeps trying to delay the trial?
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