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Chris
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New Solenoid Experiment Reply with quote

I find that response quite annoying. It implies I do not understand any
electromagetism.

Well may be.

Under what conditions is the field across a diameter of a solenoid uniform.
I was not talking about the ends.

Chris.


"Nick Rouse" <nick@rouse.123isp.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Chris" <nimbo@(no-spam)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<FEy%d.109898$y25.31534@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
Hello,

I've just done another experiment with a simple apparatus of a solenoid
and
a compass.

I set the long axis of the solenoid to point East-West and placed a
compass
at the centre of the solenoid.

I measured the deflection for 1Amp (328 degrees) then at a point close to
the windings (321 degrees). This indicates that the magnetic field near
the
windings of a solenoid is higher than along the long axis.

This indicates that a solenoid carrying alternating current could be used
to
contain, compress and extract power from a thermonuclear reacting plasma.

See my web page on:
http://www.chrisspages.co.uk go to chris's crazy iseas and then look at
"new
solenoid experiment"

My apparatus is extremely simple and shows that the Gauss construction of
magnetic shells gives the wrong answer.

Chris Strevens.

Exactly what you would expect with a solenoid of finite length.
Nick Rouse
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Chris
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New Solenoid Experiment Reply with quote

Gauss does not mention the length of the solenoid, only current loops.

How long does the solenoid need be for the field to be uniform?

Have you tried it?


"Nick Rouse" <nick@rouse.123isp.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Chris" <nimbo@(no-spam)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<FEy%d.109898$y25.31534@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
Hello,

I've just done another experiment with a simple apparatus of a solenoid
and
a compass.

I set the long axis of the solenoid to point East-West and placed a
compass
at the centre of the solenoid.

I measured the deflection for 1Amp (328 degrees) then at a point close to
the windings (321 degrees). This indicates that the magnetic field near
the
windings of a solenoid is higher than along the long axis.

This indicates that a solenoid carrying alternating current could be used
to
contain, compress and extract power from a thermonuclear reacting plasma.

See my web page on:
http://www.chrisspages.co.uk go to chris's crazy iseas and then look at
"new
solenoid experiment"

My apparatus is extremely simple and shows that the Gauss construction of
magnetic shells gives the wrong answer.

Chris Strevens.

Exactly what you would expect with a solenoid of finite length.
Nick Rouse
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DrPostman
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New Book - Unification of Electromagnetism and Gravity Available Now! Reply with quote

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:10:00 +0000 (UTC), sphinx@TheWorld.com (SPHINX
Technologies) in accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

Quote:
In article <ENdWd.42503$Qz1.26050@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
Morituri-|-Max <newage@sendarico.net> wrote:
... why do you have to hawk it when you can show people how
to build fusion reactors?

Fusion reactors are dangerous and obsolete. If you've gotta play
around with fusion, at least make it COLD fusion, or sonoluminescence-
based fusion.

But as I said, fusion is obsolete. Besides, why do you want to run
us all out of hydrogen? You humans are SO short-sighted!


What fusion reactors?






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Charlie Gibbs
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: circuit simulator Reply with quote

In article <1110567777.072193.126530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
admin@alternate-energy.net (admin) writes:

Quote:
Hi all,

I've been playing around with an excellent circuit simulator applet.
I had 2-3 small voltage doubler circuit prototypes from a few years
back. I duplicated the circuits in the java applet and did a bunch of
modifications, testing all the way to see if the applet actually
duplicated original real time component parameters and circuit
changes.
It did and it follows all the rules and allows you to simulate many
different circuits and conditions. Many of you will realize what a
time saver this simulator is. I have had hours of fun with it and am
now using it to test some ideas that I am working on. I hope you all
love it as much as I do. It is really useful,

Here's the link

http://www.alternate-energy.net/aps/circuit_simulator05.html

Ah, but does it duplicate the feeling you get when you touch
the wrong contacts?

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ring_theory
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: transforming energy infinite Reply with quote

<hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Still another egotistical nutcase!

He posted: "I invented a device that's sole pourpose was to transfom
energy indefinitely. I initially pondered how we could move a perminant
magnet flux field through a induction coil infinite. It took nearly 20
years but i have perfected the method of doing it. Creating the
closed system that man has only dreamed about till now".

(In this case, it sounds like he has wasted 20-years! Too bad that he
didn't expend that time and effort in pursuing an education in science
and technology.)

Then he goes on to say: "However I need help in developing this highly
innovative technology."

Wow...Surprise, Surprise! Don't hold your breath while awaiting that
help!

Guy, if you've invented anything worth notice that works as you
describe, and and you can physically demonstrate that it works to
interested investors, the cost of manufacturing and marketing your
invention will not be a problem. If you can't produce an operational
demonstration, then YOU have a serious problem.

If your "invention" is simply a conceptual thing based on technological
and/or scientific ignorance, as it seems is the case here, be prepared
for little more than anything between polite dismissal and absolute
ridicule!

Such is life, and precisley what has motivated many of of us other
aspiring creators of breakthrough discoveries to spend anywhere from 5
to 15 years in serious university study and research before proclaimng
to the world that we have invented anything of substance.

From the content of your post I'd say it's time for you to leave the
drawing board and go into the machine shop to produce something that
actually works, rather than continuing on with more speculative
nonsense and pseudo-scientific dribble.

Harry C.




Your atleast honest in your observations and I like that, however your not
right in your assumptions.

My invention is not conceptual. I have created 2 prototypes the first one
only rotated 3/4 of a revolution and promptly smoked the coils. prototype #2
rotated till it shelled which took about the same amount of time to smoke
the coils. The prototypes were crude at best and without induction coils.
However the next prototype will be a computer model no danger in that. I am
glad that I have a 3 foot deep pit close by.

However your more than likely right that I am indeed going to have to
somehow find the right demensional core componant with the right amount of
fields in the proper locations and build this again till I can produce a
fully working prototype which may take yet another 5 years of searching for
semi acceptable componants as they are not made as the design requires. But
at that point I will share nothing with the scientific society. I won't even
give them a scrap to experiment with as the device will be securely incased
and will shell if tampered with, so by the time they get in the case it will
be mearly indiscernible scrap.

Can't have silly monkeys toying with my technology if I don't approve it.
However for now I am offering certain experimental rights and research
privilages. Either some US research facility is going to jump at the
oppertunity and offer a computer lab with staff and reap the profits with
me. Or kick themselfs in the ass when I refuse them any rights to the
device.

I really don't care either way as I'm getting filthy rich off this device
it's just a matter of time either way.

Ring
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: transforming energy infinite Reply with quote

Still another egotistical nutcase!

He posted: "I invented a device that's sole pourpose was to transfom
energy indefinitely. I initially pondered how we could move a perminant
magnet flux field through a induction coil infinite. It took nearly 20
years but i have perfected the method of doing it. Creating the
closed system that man has only dreamed about till now".

(In this case, it sounds like he has wasted 20-years! Too bad that he
didn't expend that time and effort in pursuing an education in science
and technology.)

Then he goes on to say: "However I need help in developing this highly
innovative technology."

Wow...Surprise, Surprise! Don't hold your breath while awaiting that
help!

Guy, if you've invented anything worth notice that works as you
describe, and and you can physically demonstrate that it works to
interested investors, the cost of manufacturing and marketing your
invention will not be a problem. If you can't produce an operational
demonstration, then YOU have a serious problem.

If your "invention" is simply a conceptual thing based on technological
and/or scientific ignorance, as it seems is the case here, be prepared
for little more than anything between polite dismissal and absolute
ridicule!

Such is life, and precisley what has motivated many of of us other
aspiring creators of breakthrough discoveries to spend anywhere from 5
to 15 years in serious university study and research before proclaimng
to the world that we have invented anything of substance.

Quote:
From the content of your post I'd say it's time for you to leave the
drawing board and go into the machine shop to produce something that

actually works, rather than continuing on with more speculative
nonsense and pseudo-scientific dribble.

Harry C.








Harry C.
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ring_theory
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: R*volume*raduis2 c3po "Theroy of everything" Reply with quote

<hhc314@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Still another crackpot cluttering the newsgroup with nonsense. Why are
these people so strongly attracted to science and technology oriented
groups rather than the many alt newsgroups focusing on UFOs, paranormal
activity and other fringe stuff?

Is the source of the problem drugs or is it some form of mental
illness?

Harry C.


I agree that this guy is a crackpot. However you aren't far behind him if
you think that all of physics has no unifying form. It's referred to as
unity. True unity is 0.9999999 not 1.

Ring
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: but someone got out and me and my familiy try to stop them and got trocherd in unknow dimentions i try to make it better and they change me to make it worse so what do i do if you see what in my chest in every dimention!!! look for consiousnesses in t Reply with quote

Psychotic Idiot!
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David Spain
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: R*volume*raduis2 c3po "Theroy of everything" Reply with quote

hhc314@yahoo.com writes:

Quote:
Is the source of the problem drugs or is it some form of mental
illness?

Harry C.

In either case it seems to have a preference for the left hemisphere
of the brain. I wonder how many of these posters are right handed?

Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: R*volume*raduis2 c3po "Theroy of everything" Reply with quote

Still another crackpot cluttering the newsgroup with nonsense. Why are
these people so strongly attracted to science and technology oriented
groups rather than the many alt newsgroups focusing on UFOs, paranormal
activity and other fringe stuff?

Is the source of the problem drugs or is it some form of mental
illness?

Harry C.
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S. Lajoie
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Cold Fusion: Beyond the horizon of humdrum Reply with quote

Don't feed the trolls.

In article <1104678607.962383.106080@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
JohnnyCJohnny <johnwc@patmedia.net> wrote:
Quote:
This newsgroup exists to discuss cold fusion. If cold fusion was
settled long ago, perhaps this newsgroup should have been disolved or
its purpose should have changed. I am just posting articles I come
across regarding cold fusion for people who monitor this newsgroup
looking for current information. If the articles did not appear, I
would not post them. The fact that the media are still writing
articles about cold fusion, more frequently in recent years, indicates
that this case has not yet been settled as you suggest. I post the
articles to inform, because they exist.
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S. Lajoie
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Harnessing bubbles to trigger nuclear fusion Reply with quote

In article <1106763194.288299.279690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
JohnnyCJohnny <johnwc@patmedia.net> wrote:
Quote:
I just read the New Scientist article "Harnessing bubbles to trigger
nuclear fusion". It seems that the more recent research and paper
published by Taleyarkhan in Physics Review E last Spring has converted
quite a few skeptical scientists into his camp that believes there is
something to bubble fusion. Now, DARPA the U.S. defense agency
responsible for research is trying to get Taleyarkhan and some of this
critics together to perform the experiments and see if everyone can
agree on the results. These new experiments are slated for later this
year.

Apparently Taleyarkhan and his team have addressed all of the earlier
criticisms of his work, even to the satisfaction of some of his more
ardent critics who are impressed with his more recent work which
included controlling the experiment to demonstrate that the nuetrons he
was detected couldn't be a result of the seeding neutrons used in the
experiment. .

There has been some research at the University of Washington on Bubble
Fusion.
http://www.washington.edu/research/scienceforum/pdfs/Crum.pdf

Interesting stuff.

Steve Lajoie
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Kirk Shanahan
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Light Shines on New LENR Approach Reply with quote

"Kirk Shanahan" <kirk.shanahan@srs.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
P.S. Where did this article come from? And where are the papers
refered to within to be found?


Never mind.

See:

http://www.bloglines.com/blog/JohnathanChan?subid=2992819

and

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KowalskiLchargedpar.pdf

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Light Shines on New LENR Approach Reply with quote

P.S. Where did this article come from? And where are the papers
refered to within to be found?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Light Shines on New LENR Approach Reply with quote

Here we go again!

For a critique of the Letts-Cravens Effect, see:

From: "Kirk Shanahan" <kirk.shana...@srs.gov>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Cmts. on Storms ICCF10 Paper - Letts Effect
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:50:13 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <806722ae1fe352f3c103c2ba78a0dbbc.38703@mygate.mailgate.org>

Comments on "Use of a very sensitive Seebeck calorimeter to study
the Pons-Fleischmann and Letts Effects by Edmund Storms" presented
at the 10th Int'l Conf. on Cold Fusion, held in Cambridge,
Massachusetts 24 - 29 August 2003, by Dr. Edmund Storms (ES).

By the way, since the FPHE s real and at least partially reproducible,
the Letts-Cravens effect should be also. 600 runs proves that I guess.

And, just for fun (I still get a chuckle out of this one):

From: kirk.shana...@srs.gov (Kirk L. Shanahan)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Re: Review of the Tenth International Conference on Cold Fusion
(ICCF10)
Date: 1 Dec 2003 07:49:23 -0800
Message-ID: <9acdab21.0312010749.25eb460f@posting.google.com>
References: <cd2ccfd9.0311301534.2ded5af6@posting.google.com>


Also, I see we are back to using dental film. In:


From: kirk.shana...@srs.gov (Kirk L. Shanahan)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Re: LENR-CANR year end statistics
Date: 22 Jan 2003 04:50:41 -0800
Message-ID: <9acdab21.0301220450.23108668@posting.google.com>

I commented:


"Look up 'hypering' on the Internet, and then also realize th­at heat
exposes film."

That comment still stands.

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