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Doune60
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: the etiomology of the word "washer" Reply with quote

a_plutonium@hotmail.com wrote:
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SCW wrote:
Well done! Another bang on topic post for sci.physics

Try www.etymonline.com

Apparently it's from the archaic French "vis", so presumably the
pronunciation would be "vas", then "vaser" the "washer"

Your other assumption for screw and nut appear to be correct.

SCW
(Who really should be working, not messing around in newsgroups...)

A.P. writes:

And what did the French word "vis" mean when they attached it to the
object of a washer? And does this mean that the invention of the washer
came from France? Can we pinpoint when the world's first washers were
in existence? Sort of like the history of the Washer. The history of
the drill bit is far more important but the history of the washer
should be interesting as well.

Now I wonder how many years went by between the invention or discovery
of the nail from that of the screw. I would guess at least a couple of
thousands of years between those two inventions/discoveries. My guess
is that the screw was discovered as a flawed nail. So that it had
excess metal in the fabrication and the only way to use it was to twist
it into the wood. But that is merely a guess.

Archimedes Plutonium
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


errrm. I made a mistake in replying here, didn't I?
<closes door quietly>


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Peter Lowrie
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Ink Reply with quote

mshawjr@frontiernet.net wrote:

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You can compare prices and then review the companies on service and
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Tell you what I think. You are a prat! What do you think newsgroups are for?
Blatantly advertising your product, cross-posted to as many groups as your
client will allow.

Take your advertising and f*** off.


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Rheilly Phoull
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ink Reply with quote

mshawjr@frontiernet.net wrote:
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Sorry guys. The spam stuff was not my intent. I do oppoligies and
won't happen again. I have never been on newsgroups before and not
sure how to work them. I hope you guys can forgive a bad choice.
Murphey


Bullshit !! you are a spammer fer fecksake !!

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vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Decline in technical knowledge was Re: NJT LRVs: Diesel or electric preferable? Reply with quote

Half life of an engineering degree is six years, but that's why there
exist seminars. NSPE.org has plenty of PDH seminars in NYC. You need 15 hrs
now to keep your PE licence. The presenting companies pay for dinner just
like CME for doctors and CLE for lawyers. It was even better when we had an
engineering building near the UN (Trump tore it down and the library moved to
St Louis). Still, engineers are less likely to share knowledge than doctors
or lawyers, even with their students. And you need super-expensive software
if you want to stay current on your own. Not just for drafting, but
analysis. Some GNU stuff is showing up, but not much. In the old days, there
was plenty more free stuff from the likes of NASA and netlib. There is a
tradeoff, because overly proprietary software doesn't get robust enough peer
review.

Half the masters at Columbia engineering are now financial engineering. A
lot of the old analysis tools used by the military are ending up used in
games and animation (I'm told Shrek's hair moved by CFD/FEA). This is a lot
better than the Russians fearing their scientists would starve and go work
for terrorists. When I went to Columbia, the College folks disdained us - now
the Engineering school has higher selectivity than the College. Columbia
gets screwed in rankings because other Engineers think it has "too much"
liberal arts (yeah, right, that they know how to speak without their hands in
their mouths is supposed to be a problem?) - if you rank Columbia by Who's
Who in Engineering citations per alumni, it zips to the top.

Half of all SIC codes were represented in preWW2 NYC. But Rockefeller
though this was beneath us and wanted all that to move to Jersey. Also, the
net bubble dumbed down a lot of engineering. I'm sorry, but I still consider
most computer stuff to be glorified clerical work. When I was the TA for Math
Elements for Computer Graphics in Spring, 1981, we turned away students for
insufficient math - now they play with MS Picture Editor and have no idea
what they are really doing.

I don't think hybrids will work because there won't be mechanics to fix
them. There were no mechanics who knew how to upkeep our 1978 Cordoba's
computerised carborator. That's the real reason folks bought Japanese.
American mechanics couldn't upkeep American cars so they told their customers
to buy Japanese. The dunce mechanics of NYC will cause all the hybrid owners
to die of electrocution.

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Phil Kane
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Decline in technical knowledge was Re: NJT LRVs: Diesel or electric preferable? Reply with quote

On Fri, 5 May 2006 08:15:30 +0000 (UTC), vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

Quote:
Half life of an engineering degree is six years, but that's why there
exist seminars. NSPE.org has plenty of PDH seminars in NYC. You need 15 hrs
now to keep your PE licence.

Many states have that. I do more than that to keep California,
Nevada, and Utah PE licenses current, and only 8 hours/year to keep
my California law license current. It used to be 12 but there were
several scandals over exemptions which the courts had to resolve.

Quote:
The presenting companies pay for dinner just like CME for doctors and
CLE for lawyers.

The presenters at the Society of Broadcast Engineers (my PDH
provider) usually pay for the seminar fees and lunch (which
otherwise would be about $160/year) but the CLE - about $300 per
year in seminar fees plus lunch - comes out of my pocket.

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John Mara
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Decline in technical knowledge was Re: NJT LRVs: Diesel or electric preferable? Reply with quote

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

Quote:
I don't think hybrids will work because there won't be mechanics to fix
them.

Most electronic stuff is like a light bulb. Either it works or it
doesn't. If it doesn't work you replace it. To service a hybrid car
you unplug the bad module and plug in a new one.

John Mara
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george conklin
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Decline in technical knowledge was Re: NJT LRVs: Diesel or electric preferable? Reply with quote

"John Mara" <johnmara@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:WsS6g.35928$cY3.18410@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
Quote:
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

I don't think hybrids will work because there won't be mechanics to
fix
them.

Most electronic stuff is like a light bulb. Either it works or it
doesn't. If it doesn't work you replace it. To service a hybrid car you
unplug the bad module and plug in a new one.

John Mara

The era when you had to know what every resistor did is over with. Now you
throw out entire components and, yes, you do plug in new ones. I remember
the Ford blue grommet ignition modules went bad because the connectors were
crap. Now THAT was a problem.
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operator jay
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: New * International Engineer * initials, * Eng-i * and * Ing-i *. Reply with quote

PE is the designation for professional engineers in the US. What is the
equivalent designation in other parts of the world?

--I'm asking in ignorance


"Mark Walter" <MarkRWalter@SBCGlobal.net> wrote in message
news:PCIjg.147642$F_3.144903@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Quote:
There already exists a mechanism to recognize those who have demonstrated
a
minimal proficiency in the art and science of engineering. It is called a
PE (Professional Engineering) license. Why are u re-inventing the wheel?

M Walter, PE





KL wrote:

Cool.........I guess this means your employer will automatically give you
a pay raise?

"Engi" <fintan.lynch@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150146456.994349.134010@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
If you are an approved Graduate Engineer, why not avail of the new *
International Engineer * initials, * Eng-i *, or * Ing-i * for
Continental Europe.

For further details, see website, http://www.eng-i.com.

Regards,
Fintan Lynch, B.E., M.IEI., Eng-i.

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bulk@engineer.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: New * International Engineer * initials, * Eng-i * and * Ing-i *. Reply with quote

Mark Walter wrote:
Quote:
There already exists a mechanism to recognize those who have demonstrated a
minimal proficiency in the art and science of engineering. It is called a
PE (Professional Engineering) license. Why are u re-inventing the wheel?

M Walter, PE

The P.E licence is not international and the initials, * P.E * cannot
become international for one reason or another. The title * Engineer
International * and the initials * Eng-i * are meant mainly for
Graduate Engineers who, whether PE's like it or not, are members of the
engineering profession. Many Graduates have no ambition to become
P.E's.

Regards,
John Carey.
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bulk@engineer.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: New * International Engineer * initials, * Eng-i * and * Ing-i *. Reply with quote

ms wrote:
Quote:
PE is the designation for professional engineers in the US. What is the
equivalent designation in other parts of the world?

--I'm asking in ignorance


In UK and Ireland, it is Chartered Engineer ( C.Eng ). In Europe it is
Euro Engineer (Eur-Ing). In Australia it is Chartered Professional
Engineer ( CPEng ). In US it is P.E. In Canada it is P.Eng. In Africa
it is Pr.Eng or Pr.Ing. I cannot speak for elsewhere.

What a mess, and then Engineers complain about Graduates getting their
act together and using * Eng-i * internationally !

Regards,
John Carey.
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Adam Funk
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: pube girl story, the Reply with quote

On 2006-07-15, Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
First, assume a perfectly spherical child...

This is the exercise from "Heat Transfer for Engineers" for "A Modest
Proposal", right?

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him.tha@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: pube girl story, the Reply with quote

sup
Adam Funk wrote:
Quote:
On 2006-07-15, Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@comcast.net> wrote:

First, assume a perfectly spherical child...

This is the exercise from "Heat Transfer for Engineers" for "A Modest
Proposal", right?

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Dr. HotSalt
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: pube girl story, the Reply with quote

Adam Funk wrote:
Quote:
On 2006-07-15, Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@comcast.net> wrote:

First, assume a perfectly spherical child...

This is the exercise from "Heat Transfer for Engineers" for "A Modest
Proposal", right?

No, that's from the Mechanical Engineering Appendix. The Heat
Transfer part assumes they're homogenous.


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