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Hans
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Right you are!
Physicist have their dreams, but those stupid mechanical engineers are
not able to make their dreams come true. Let us stick to the
steamengine technique with water moderated and steam generating nuclear
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Chris
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:08 am Post subject:
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Tesla did it in 1930 (Teslas Coil - free electricity)
http://www.newelectricity.co.uk/Teslas%20Coil/index.htm
Vested interests blocked it.
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Chris
"H. E. Taylor" <het@despam.autobahn.mb.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | 2006/03/09: NewScientist: No future for fusion power, says top scientist
Nuclear fusion will never be a practical source of electrical power,
argues a prominent scientist in the journal Science.
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Steve Spence
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Rick Nelson
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:
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Hi NSA boy - die tonight.
Steve Spence wrote:
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Bret Cahill
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:45 am Post subject:
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Parkins knows full well that a lot of slackers too unmotivated by money
will conduct a scorched earth policy when it comes to proving someone
wrong.
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Rolf Martens
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:09 am Post subject:
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In article <0K2Rf.119542$Q22.12635@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
nimbo@no-spamukonline.co.uk says...
Interesting - but I'm sceptical. Vested interests today do
kill a lot of really important developments. But could they
really have been strong enough for that already in the 1930s?
What's the scientific principle behind this thing? (I looked
up the website, not understanding it.)
And nuclear fusion no doubt does have a future - no matter what
those "Planet of the Apes" people say.
Rolf M.
www.rolf-martens.com
| Quote: | "H. E. Taylor" <het@despam.autobahn.mb.ca> wrote in message
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2006/03/09: NewScientist: No future for fusion power, says top scientist
Nuclear fusion will never be a practical source of electrical power,
argues a prominent scientist in the journal Science.
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Rolf Martens
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:10 am Post subject:
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In article <4414bb40$1_4@newsfeed.slurp.net>, sspence@green-trust.org
says...
Well yes, it does sound a little like me, doesn't it?
But actually, I'm sceptical about this thing.
Rolf M. (Mao Zedong adherent)
www.rolf-martens.com
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penguinista
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:15 am Post subject:
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Rolf Martens wrote:
| Quote: | In article <0K2Rf.119542$Q22.12635@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
nimbo@no-spamukonline.co.uk says...
Tesla did it in 1930 (Teslas Coil - free electricity)
http://www.newelectricity.co.uk/Teslas%20Coil/index.htm
Vested interests blocked it.
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Chris
Interesting - but I'm sceptical. Vested interests today do
kill a lot of really important developments. But could they
really have been strong enough for that already in the 1930s?
What's the scientific principle behind this thing? (I looked
up the website, not understanding it.)
And nuclear fusion no doubt does have a future - no matter what
those "Planet of the Apes" people say.
Rolf M.
www.rolf-martens.com
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Looking at it, the nicest thing I can say is the drawing and explination
are horrifically incomplete. The tesla coil is hardly a free energy
device, but I don't believe Tesla understood conservation of energy, or
anything requiring advanced math, well enough to know that. The
principle behind the tesla coil is the same as repeated gentle pushes at
the resonant frequency of a pendulum, gradually building up to a very
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willie88@hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:
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H. E. Taylor wrote:
| Quote: | 2006/03/09: NewScientist: No future for fusion power, says top scientist
snip
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8827
PS.
For those who might wonder...
"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is
possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something
is impossible, he is very probably wrong." - Arthur C. Clarke's First Law
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Here are short: http://fire.pppl.gov/fpa_science_031206.pdf and long:
http://fire.pppl.gov/fusion_critic_response_stacey.pdf rebuttals to
this outdated rant. That the editor of Science personally pushed this
through publication just shows his ignorance. Clarke's first law holds
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Chris
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject:
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The tesla coil had a hydrogen geilser tube inside it that made a gentle
discharge tube that underwent hydrogen fusion gently and gave out energy in
a controlled way.
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Chris
"penguinista" <cal@not.splitreflection.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Rolf Martens wrote:
In article <0K2Rf.119542$Q22.12635@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
nimbo@no-spamukonline.co.uk says...
Tesla did it in 1930 (Teslas Coil - free electricity)
http://www.newelectricity.co.uk/Teslas%20Coil/index.htm
Vested interests blocked it.
--
Chris
Interesting - but I'm sceptical. Vested interests today do
kill a lot of really important developments. But could they
really have been strong enough for that already in the 1930s?
What's the scientific principle behind this thing? (I looked
up the website, not understanding it.)
And nuclear fusion no doubt does have a future - no matter what
those "Planet of the Apes" people say.
Rolf M.
www.rolf-martens.com
Looking at it, the nicest thing I can say is the drawing and explination
are horrifically incomplete. The tesla coil is hardly a free energy
device, but I don't believe Tesla understood conservation of energy, or
anything requiring advanced math, well enough to know that. The principle
behind the tesla coil is the same as repeated gentle pushes at the
resonant frequency of a pendulum, gradually building up to a very large
swing. |
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penguinista
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:35 am Post subject:
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Chris wrote:
| Quote: | The tesla coil had a hydrogen geilser tube inside it that made a gentle
discharge tube that underwent hydrogen fusion gently and gave out energy in
a controlled way.
Look up Lawson's criterion. I describes a chief requirement for a |
functional fusion power reactor. |
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Charles Cagle
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| Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:16 am Post subject:
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On 3/15/06 20:35, in article 4418dd04$0$163$d368eab@news.calweb.com,
"penguinista" <cal@not.splitreflection.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Chris wrote:
The tesla coil had a hydrogen geilser tube inside it that made a gentle
discharge tube that underwent hydrogen fusion gently and gave out energy in
a controlled way.
Look up Lawson's criterion. I describes a chief requirement for a
functional fusion power reactor.
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Lawson's criterion is based upon assumptions about nuclear fusion that have
never been demonstrated to be true.
CC
-- Peace to the followers of Jesus Christ -
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