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The atheist movement came into existence by accident.
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Leonard Abbott
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

The atheist movement came into existence by accident. After it appeared
that the universe was infinite in size in Isaac Newtons time.

Mathematicians had a difficult time in expressing Infinity in Geometric
terms.
Ii became necessary to use the abstract to get around the obvious, that
the universe was infinite.

For a couple of hundred yrs different deceptions or abstract
explanations were used. finally in the 1850s Riemann projected the
universe into the abstract by drawing straight lines as curved lines,
and he made parallel lines cross.

The public loved it and were fed a steady diet of abstract geometry,
Just before Darwin published his famous book on ''Evolution of the
Species.''

These two abstract ideas were the basis for Einstein's Religion,
Positivism developed by August Comte. In Comte's religion all scientific
phenomena was projected into the abstract.

Most of the abstract math, as well as the scientific data was not
Einstein's works , but he was given credit because of the great
complexity.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

Leonard Abbott wrote:
<all snipped due to s**t stuff>

f*** off, despicable piece of s**t.
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The Ghost In The Machine1
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:11:08 -0500, Leonard Abbott wrote:

Quote:
The atheist movement came into existence by accident. After it appeared
that the universe was infinite in size in Isaac Newtons time.

Mathematicians had a difficult time in expressing Infinity in Geometric
terms.
Ii became necessary to use the abstract to get around the obvious, that
the universe was infinite.

For a couple of hundred yrs different deceptions or abstract explanations
were used. finally in the 1850s Riemann projected the universe into the
abstract by drawing straight lines as curved lines, and he made parallel
lines cross.

The public loved it and were fed a steady diet of abstract geometry, Just
before Darwin published his famous book on ''Evolution of the Species.''

These two abstract ideas were the basis for Einstein's Religion,
Positivism developed by August Comte. In Comte's religion all scientific
phenomena was projected into the abstract.

Most of the abstract math, as well as the scientific data was not
Einstein's works , but he was given credit because of the great
complexity.

And this screed is relevant to physics precisely...why?

Math is indeed useful to theoretical physicists who must [*] spend quite a
bit of time setting up (and occasionally tearing down!) models of
subatomic particles to try to predict the results of their next
experiment. Geometry might figure in these models, if only
because of the 3D aspects of the problem space. However, why atheism,
Infinity, and evolution are even relevant in this space is about as clear
as the proverbial mud.

Any discussion of God is by necessity outside of physics, and into
metaphysics (shut up, Hammond); God is more or less by definition
unknowable, although most religious have their notions on how to properly
worship the deity/ies.

As for Einstein founding a religion -- not even wrong. Of course a few
here might claim such, if only because they don't understand the problem.

[*] I am not a theoretical physicist, so who knows what they do? Smile But
I doubt they are part of a vast physics conspiracy of any sort; they're
most likely too busy delving into the physics.

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Sorcerer1
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Math is indeed useful to theoretical physicists who must [*] spend quite a
| bit of time setting up (and occasionally tearing down!) models of
| subatomic particles to try to predict the results of their next
| experiment. Geometry might figure in these models, if only
| because of the 3D aspects of the problem space.

| [*] I am not a theoretical physicist, so who knows what they do? :-)

In other words you are theoretical moron faking to be a physicist.

Androcles.
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The Ghost In The Machine1
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:00:52 +0000, Sorcerer wrote:

Quote:

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.18.05.18.06.805652@earthlink.net...

| Math is indeed useful to theoretical physicists who must [*] spend quite a
| bit of time setting up (and occasionally tearing down!) models of
| subatomic particles to try to predict the results of their next
| experiment. Geometry might figure in these models, if only
| because of the 3D aspects of the problem space.

| [*] I am not a theoretical physicist, so who knows what they do? :-)

In other words you are theoretical moron faking to be a physicist.

Androcles.

Whereas you are a full-fledged physicist, right?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.19.06.18.50.825561@earthlink.net...
| On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:00:52 +0000, Sorcerer wrote:
|
| >
| > "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > news:pan.2006.06.18.05.18.06.805652@earthlink.net...
| >
| > | Math is indeed useful to theoretical physicists who must [*] spend
quite a
| > | bit of time setting up (and occasionally tearing down!) models of
| > | subatomic particles to try to predict the results of their next
| > | experiment. Geometry might figure in these models, if only
| > | because of the 3D aspects of the problem space.
| >
| > | [*] I am not a theoretical physicist, so who knows what they do? Smile
| >
| > In other words you are theoretical moron faking to be a physicist.
| >
| > Androcles.
|
| Whereas you are a full-fledged physicist, right?

Correct, I am indeed.
This is a teaching model I've set up, the real thing is fitted to aircraft
the world over..
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac.htm
This is a teardown model:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DominoEffect.GIF

Physicists must waste quite a bit of time tearing down shithead ideas
(and occasional setting up models) as Copernicus, Galileo, Newton,
Kepler and Michelson have shown. When successful, they send people
to the moon and back. Theoretical morons with their heads up their
arse (like you) can't do that.

Math is indeed useful to physicists, but theoretical arseholes (like you)
don't know how to use it, wildly imagining a constant velocity reverses
direction. You do know how to sarcastically babble theories, I'll grant you
that.
Pity they don't stand up to engineering. Which little domino are you?

Androcles Dumbledore, B.A., M.Sc, Ph.D.
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The Ghost In The Machine1
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: The atheist movement came into existence by accident. Reply with quote

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:03:09 +0000, Sorcerer wrote:

Quote:

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.19.06.18.50.825561@earthlink.net...
| On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:00:52 +0000, Sorcerer wrote:
|
|
| > "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > news:pan.2006.06.18.05.18.06.805652@earthlink.net...
|
| > | Math is indeed useful to theoretical physicists who must [*] spend
quite a
| > | bit of time setting up (and occasionally tearing down!) models of
| > | subatomic particles to try to predict the results of their next
| > | experiment. Geometry might figure in these models, if only
| > | because of the 3D aspects of the problem space.
|
| > | [*] I am not a theoretical physicist, so who knows what they do? Smile
|
| > In other words you are theoretical moron faking to be a physicist.
|
| > Androcles.
|
| Whereas you are a full-fledged physicist, right?

Correct, I am indeed.
This is a teaching model I've set up, the real thing is fitted to aircraft
the world over..
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac.htm
This is a teardown model:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DominoEffect.GIF

Physicists must waste quite a bit of time tearing down shithead ideas
(and occasional setting up models) as Copernicus, Galileo, Newton,
Kepler and Michelson have shown. When successful, they send people
to the moon and back. Theoretical morons with their heads up their
arse (like you) can't do that.

Math is indeed useful to physicists, but theoretical arseholes (like you)
don't know how to use it, wildly imagining a constant velocity reverses
direction. You do know how to sarcastically babble theories, I'll grant you
that.
Pity they don't stand up to engineering. Which little domino are you?

Androcles Dumbledore, B.A., M.Sc, Ph.D.

OK. Dirk, take note; he's a physicist.

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