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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

kumar wrote:
Quote:
Hello,

I want to know how different type of energies(temperature, magnetic
fields, sound and light, vibrations etc.) can effect/impact the
structures of solids?

Can it expand their volume?

Yes, the exansion joints on long bridges are needed to
compensate for the summer heat.

Quote:
Can it make them softer or harder?

A high enough temperture turns everything into blackholes.


Quote:
Can exposure of energies impact solids to shed their particles?

Yes, since the photo-electric sensors at stores
only work that way.

Quote:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

wate wrote:
Quote:
kumar wrote:
mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,

I want to know how different type of energies(temperature, magnetic
fields, sound and light, vibrations etc.) can effect/impact the
structures of solids?

Can it expand their volume?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
expand.


Can it make them softer or harder?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
melt or sublimate.


Can exposure of energies impact solids to shed their particles?

Yes, all of them. Sublimation is a change of state that can be caused
by the addition of energy.


Best wishes.

It means, some particles from the solids can be shedded on application
of different energies to them.

Can such solids also emit or reflect applied energies to them?

Of course. Every object that has a temperature emits energy. Look up
"blackbody radiation".

It means every solid can effect us on application of energy to it
either by its shedded particles or by its emitted or reflected energies?

Sure can. Think: "suicide bomber".

In view of this everything can interact/effect us by its shedded
particle and emited or reflected spectrum of energies?

Does it happen in all spritual and energy healing systems?

Kumar, I just read this thread of yours now. Well, the answer is
this.

In addition to electromagnetic field emitted by the electrons in the
baseball. There is also another energy called it scalar field that
is emitted by the baseball. This is why trained scanners can
be blindfolded and still see the surrounding, they are detecting
the scalar emissions from the objects. But because the scalar
emission has strong inherent non-local properties. You have
to apply psi probing from the third eye or pineal gland (subquantum
detector) to the surrounding to initiate tracking HUP
(Heisenberg Uncertainly Principle) mediated feedback. This
means scalar field also obey HUP and the only way you can
focus on the scalar object is slowing its non-local momentum
to bestow more accuracty to the position. In a few decades.
This will be more well known.

wate

Hello wate,

Can there also be some change in environmental pressure or vibrations
due to ball movement towards us, which we may also sense and react?
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Wate
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

kumar wrote:
Quote:
wate wrote:
kumar wrote:
mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,

I want to know how different type of energies(temperature, magnetic
fields, sound and light, vibrations etc.) can effect/impact the
structures of solids?

Can it expand their volume?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
expand.


Can it make them softer or harder?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
melt or sublimate.


Can exposure of energies impact solids to shed their particles?

Yes, all of them. Sublimation is a change of state that can be caused
by the addition of energy.


Best wishes.

It means, some particles from the solids can be shedded on application
of different energies to them.

Can such solids also emit or reflect applied energies to them?

Of course. Every object that has a temperature emits energy. Look up
"blackbody radiation".

It means every solid can effect us on application of energy to it
either by its shedded particles or by its emitted or reflected energies?

Sure can. Think: "suicide bomber".

In view of this everything can interact/effect us by its shedded
particle and emited or reflected spectrum of energies?

Does it happen in all spritual and energy healing systems?

Kumar, I just read this thread of yours now. Well, the answer is
this.

In addition to electromagnetic field emitted by the electrons in the
baseball. There is also another energy called it scalar field that
is emitted by the baseball. This is why trained scanners can
be blindfolded and still see the surrounding, they are detecting
the scalar emissions from the objects. But because the scalar
emission has strong inherent non-local properties. You have
to apply psi probing from the third eye or pineal gland (subquantum
detector) to the surrounding to initiate tracking HUP
(Heisenberg Uncertainly Principle) mediated feedback. This
means scalar field also obey HUP and the only way you can
focus on the scalar object is slowing its non-local momentum
to bestow more accuracty to the position. In a few decades.
This will be more well known.

wate

Hello wate,

Can there also be some change in environmental pressure or vibrations
due to ball movement towards us, which we may also sense and react?

There is some scalar wave emissions coming from magnetic north and
south pole of the earth. When the ball is moving in the air, it may
affect
these emissions although the effect to one is almost negligible.
This is the basis of Feng Shui where positions of objects
in rooms or buildings can affect the occupants. This is because
we don't live by oxygen alone but also from these subtle energy
from the environment that charges our body. Even the sun's ray
is more than electromagnetic, there is also scalar wave component
in the sun rays that benefits us so much. Ever heard of plants that can
grow in the basement when wires are used to conduct it upwards,
the scalar energy in the sun can be transmitted to the plants via
the wires and there is some ATP photosynthesis from this
pathway that don't directly use photons but alternative scalar wave
scalar_synthesis. In the coming breakthrough in physics, it will
reverberate thru thedifferent fields of science from biology to
genetics,
etc..

Now about other environmental vibrations. The baseball can affect
the air molecules as it moves. Note that bats use echo to
sense objects in caves. So with enough sensitivity. Bats (remember
the marvel character Daredevil) can sense the baseball movement
toward it. Something like that.

Gravitationally. There is interaction with the space time fabric
in terms of stress mass energy and the ensuing curving of the
fabric.

Also virtual particles wise. As the baseball is charging toward
you in the air. Its electrons and the unnaked clothe of virtual
particles can affect ambient virtual particles resulting in some
planck level thermal effect although the effect is again negligible
in a larger frame.

Hmm.. What else?

wate
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kumar
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Joined: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

wate wrote:
Quote:
kumar wrote:
wate wrote:
kumar wrote:
mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
PD wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,

I want to know how different type of energies(temperature, magnetic
fields, sound and light, vibrations etc.) can effect/impact the
structures of solids?

Can it expand their volume?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
expand.


Can it make them softer or harder?

Yes, all of them. Anything that adds energy to a solid can cause it to
melt or sublimate.


Can exposure of energies impact solids to shed their particles?

Yes, all of them. Sublimation is a change of state that can be caused
by the addition of energy.


Best wishes.

It means, some particles from the solids can be shedded on application
of different energies to them.

Can such solids also emit or reflect applied energies to them?

Of course. Every object that has a temperature emits energy. Look up
"blackbody radiation".

It means every solid can effect us on application of energy to it
either by its shedded particles or by its emitted or reflected energies?

Sure can. Think: "suicide bomber".

In view of this everything can interact/effect us by its shedded
particle and emited or reflected spectrum of energies?

Does it happen in all spritual and energy healing systems?

Kumar, I just read this thread of yours now. Well, the answer is
this.

In addition to electromagnetic field emitted by the electrons in the
baseball. There is also another energy called it scalar field that
is emitted by the baseball. This is why trained scanners can
be blindfolded and still see the surrounding, they are detecting
the scalar emissions from the objects. But because the scalar
emission has strong inherent non-local properties. You have
to apply psi probing from the third eye or pineal gland (subquantum
detector) to the surrounding to initiate tracking HUP
(Heisenberg Uncertainly Principle) mediated feedback. This
means scalar field also obey HUP and the only way you can
focus on the scalar object is slowing its non-local momentum
to bestow more accuracty to the position. In a few decades.
This will be more well known.

wate

Hello wate,

Can there also be some change in environmental pressure or vibrations
due to ball movement towards us, which we may also sense and react?

There is some scalar wave emissions coming from magnetic north and
south pole of the earth. When the ball is moving in the air, it may
affect
these emissions although the effect to one is almost negligible.
This is the basis of Feng Shui where positions of objects
in rooms or buildings can affect the occupants. This is because
we don't live by oxygen alone but also from these subtle energy
from the environment that charges our body. Even the sun's ray
is more than electromagnetic, there is also scalar wave component
in the sun rays that benefits us so much. Ever heard of plants that can
grow in the basement when wires are used to conduct it upwards,
the scalar energy in the sun can be transmitted to the plants via
the wires and there is some ATP photosynthesis from this
pathway that don't directly use photons but alternative scalar wave
scalar_synthesis. In the coming breakthrough in physics, it will
reverberate thru thedifferent fields of science from biology to
genetics,
etc..

Now about other environmental vibrations. The baseball can affect
the air molecules as it moves. Note that bats use echo to
sense objects in caves. So with enough sensitivity. Bats (remember
the marvel character Daredevil) can sense the baseball movement
toward it. Something like that.

Gravitationally. There is interaction with the space time fabric
in terms of stress mass energy and the ensuing curving of the
fabric.

Also virtual particles wise. As the baseball is charging toward
you in the air. Its electrons and the unnaked clothe of virtual
particles can affect ambient virtual particles resulting in some
planck level thermal effect although the effect is again negligible
in a larger frame.

Hmm.. What else?

wate

Wate,

Thanks you have told many effects, most of these we just igore grossly.

These can be many effects. Depending upon the senstivity and
susceptibility some can be easily recognizable and short term other can
be long term effects. Som other can be recognizable in many
generations. However, we usually calculate immediate or short term
effects, sometimes long term also....for scientific understandings. You
can't do double bling placebo controlled studies for diabetes,
hypertension etc. for whole life or for many genarations keeping one
diabetic group without medications. Furthur many type of interactions
known or unknown to us may be there but few may be normally ignored by
our body due to aquired tollerances. We may have to ignore these but to
calculate which really effect us or show effects on us. So pls tell
those.

How/what you consider subtle energy?

Can there be a "prime force" mother of all fundamental forces,
elementary particles etc.?
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Randy Poe
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Posts: 2485

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

kumar wrote:
Quote:
Wate,

Thanks you have told many effects, most of these we just igore grossly.

That's because he's making them up. They aren't part
of physics.

However you are much more likely finding what
you want in those fields of study: psi, feng shui,
numerology, etc. So I heartily encourage you to
pursue this line of inquiry.

- Randy
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Wate
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Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

kumar wrote:

Quote:
Kumar, I just read this thread of yours now. Well, the answer is
this.

In addition to electromagnetic field emitted by the electrons in the
baseball. There is also another energy called it scalar field that
is emitted by the baseball. This is why trained scanners can
be blindfolded and still see the surrounding, they are detecting
the scalar emissions from the objects. But because the scalar
emission has strong inherent non-local properties. You have
to apply psi probing from the third eye or pineal gland (subquantum
detector) to the surrounding to initiate tracking HUP
(Heisenberg Uncertainly Principle) mediated feedback. This
means scalar field also obey HUP and the only way you can
focus on the scalar object is slowing its non-local momentum
to bestow more accuracty to the position. In a few decades.
This will be more well known.

wate

Hello wate,

Can there also be some change in environmental pressure or vibrations
due to ball movement towards us, which we may also sense and react?

There is some scalar wave emissions coming from magnetic north and
south pole of the earth. When the ball is moving in the air, it may
affect
these emissions although the effect to one is almost negligible.
This is the basis of Feng Shui where positions of objects
in rooms or buildings can affect the occupants. This is because
we don't live by oxygen alone but also from these subtle energy
from the environment that charges our body. Even the sun's ray
is more than electromagnetic, there is also scalar wave component
in the sun rays that benefits us so much. Ever heard of plants that can
grow in the basement when wires are used to conduct it upwards,
the scalar energy in the sun can be transmitted to the plants via
the wires and there is some ATP photosynthesis from this
pathway that don't directly use photons but alternative scalar wave
scalar_synthesis. In the coming breakthrough in physics, it will
reverberate thru thedifferent fields of science from biology to
genetics,
etc..

Now about other environmental vibrations. The baseball can affect
the air molecules as it moves. Note that bats use echo to
sense objects in caves. So with enough sensitivity. Bats (remember
the marvel character Daredevil) can sense the baseball movement
toward it. Something like that.

Gravitationally. There is interaction with the space time fabric
in terms of stress mass energy and the ensuing curving of the
fabric.

Also virtual particles wise. As the baseball is charging toward
you in the air. Its electrons and the unnaked clothe of virtual
particles can affect ambient virtual particles resulting in some
planck level thermal effect although the effect is again negligible
in a larger frame.

Hmm.. What else?

wate

Wate,

Thanks you have told many effects, most of these we just igore grossly.

These can be many effects. Depending upon the senstivity and
susceptibility some can be easily recognizable and short term other can
be long term effects. Som other can be recognizable in many
generations. However, we usually calculate immediate or short term
effects, sometimes long term also....for scientific understandings. You
can't do double bling placebo controlled studies for diabetes,
hypertension etc. for whole life or for many genarations keeping one
diabetic group without medications. Furthur many type of interactions
known or unknown to us may be there but few may be normally ignored by
our body due to aquired tollerances. We may have to ignore these but to
calculate which really effect us or show effects on us. So pls tell
those.

How/what you consider subtle energy?

Can there be a "prime force" mother of all fundamental forces,
elementary particles etc.?

Wikipedia once has this to say about it:

"Currently, individuals investigating 'subtle energy' promote three
differing
perspectives regarding its qualities and processes: (1) that these
energies exist but do not affect organic life in any way; (2) that
subtle energies are a "fifth force," distinctly different from the
other four standard forces; or (3) that the variations and
complexities of subtle energies manifest the four forces and elements
that compose all force and matter. This last perspective, if proven
true, would indicate that 'subtle energy' is a particular expression of
space
at the sub-quark level."

Try to goggle up "subtle energy" in the net and you'll find many
hits. It is all very related to quantum and particle physics. Even
Lisa Randall extended infinite higher dimension is involved.
Well. I like hard data and only seek to only deal with it to avoid
wasting
time. So I'd wait for the Large Hadron Collider to be operational
before
proceeding to investigate or comtemplate the physics of subtle
energies if I decide it would be in the best interest of myself and
humanity (remember premature exposure of this science may do
more chaos and harm in a world lived by savages). The LHC as you
know will help us determine if there are higher dimensions,
whether the super symmetric particles exist, the higgs, etc.
These are all related to subtle energies and the LHC facility can
help immensely in the undertaking.

Meanwhile. I'll venture in none subtle energy related matter.. cooking
that is.. I'd want to focus on cooking food and so I'd be seeing you
again in 2008 after the LHC produces workable data already.

Be open minded. But not so open minded as to let the brain fall out
(they say). Always don't be closed minded, or the brain may not
be able to get oxygen and the neurons can die (they say too).

Btw... try to visit http://www.tillerfoundation.com He has massive
experimental data about subtle energy that can be replicated
in other labs. Goodluck dude.


wate
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Can energy impact solids? Reply with quote

wate wrote:
Quote:
kumar wrote:

Kumar, I just read this thread of yours now. Well, the answer is
this.

In addition to electromagnetic field emitted by the electrons in the
baseball. There is also another energy called it scalar field that
is emitted by the baseball. This is why trained scanners can
be blindfolded and still see the surrounding, they are detecting
the scalar emissions from the objects. But because the scalar
emission has strong inherent non-local properties. You have
to apply psi probing from the third eye or pineal gland (subquantum
detector) to the surrounding to initiate tracking HUP
(Heisenberg Uncertainly Principle) mediated feedback. This
means scalar field also obey HUP and the only way you can
focus on the scalar object is slowing its non-local momentum
to bestow more accuracty to the position. In a few decades.
This will be more well known.

wate

Hello wate,

Can there also be some change in environmental pressure or vibrations
due to ball movement towards us, which we may also sense and react?

There is some scalar wave emissions coming from magnetic north and
south pole of the earth. When the ball is moving in the air, it may
affect
these emissions although the effect to one is almost negligible.
This is the basis of Feng Shui where positions of objects
in rooms or buildings can affect the occupants. This is because
we don't live by oxygen alone but also from these subtle energy
from the environment that charges our body. Even the sun's ray
is more than electromagnetic, there is also scalar wave component
in the sun rays that benefits us so much. Ever heard of plants that can
grow in the basement when wires are used to conduct it upwards,
the scalar energy in the sun can be transmitted to the plants via
the wires and there is some ATP photosynthesis from this
pathway that don't directly use photons but alternative scalar wave
scalar_synthesis. In the coming breakthrough in physics, it will
reverberate thru thedifferent fields of science from biology to
genetics,
etc..

Now about other environmental vibrations. The baseball can affect
the air molecules as it moves. Note that bats use echo to
sense objects in caves. So with enough sensitivity. Bats (remember
the marvel character Daredevil) can sense the baseball movement
toward it. Something like that.

Gravitationally. There is interaction with the space time fabric
in terms of stress mass energy and the ensuing curving of the
fabric.

Also virtual particles wise. As the baseball is charging toward
you in the air. Its electrons and the unnaked clothe of virtual
particles can affect ambient virtual particles resulting in some
planck level thermal effect although the effect is again negligible
in a larger frame.

Hmm.. What else?

wate

Wate,

Thanks you have told many effects, most of these we just igore grossly.

These can be many effects. Depending upon the senstivity and
susceptibility some can be easily recognizable and short term other can
be long term effects. Som other can be recognizable in many
generations. However, we usually calculate immediate or short term
effects, sometimes long term also....for scientific understandings. You
can't do double bling placebo controlled studies for diabetes,
hypertension etc. for whole life or for many genarations keeping one
diabetic group without medications. Furthur many type of interactions
known or unknown to us may be there but few may be normally ignored by
our body due to aquired tollerances. We may have to ignore these but to
calculate which really effect us or show effects on us. So pls tell
those.

How/what you consider subtle energy?

Can there be a "prime force" mother of all fundamental forces,
elementary particles etc.?

Wikipedia once has this to say about it:

"Currently, individuals investigating 'subtle energy' promote three
differing
perspectives regarding its qualities and processes: (1) that these
energies exist but do not affect organic life in any way; (2) that
subtle energies are a "fifth force," distinctly different from the
other four standard forces; or (3) that the variations and
complexities of subtle energies manifest the four forces and elements
that compose all force and matter. This last perspective, if proven
true, would indicate that 'subtle energy' is a particular expression of
space
at the sub-quark level."

Try to goggle up "subtle energy" in the net and you'll find many
hits. It is all very related to quantum and particle physics. Even
Lisa Randall extended infinite higher dimension is involved.
Well. I like hard data and only seek to only deal with it to avoid
wasting
time. So I'd wait for the Large Hadron Collider to be operational
before
proceeding to investigate or comtemplate the physics of subtle
energies if I decide it would be in the best interest of myself and
humanity (remember premature exposure of this science may do
more chaos and harm in a world lived by savages). The LHC as you
know will help us determine if there are higher dimensions,
whether the super symmetric particles exist, the higgs, etc.
These are all related to subtle energies and the LHC facility can
help immensely in the undertaking.

Meanwhile. I'll venture in none subtle energy related matter.. cooking
that is.. I'd want to focus on cooking food and so I'd be seeing you
again in 2008 after the LHC produces workable data already.

Be open minded. But not so open minded as to let the brain fall out
(they say). Always don't be closed minded, or the brain may not
be able to get oxygen and the neurons can die (they say too).

Btw... try to visit http://www.tillerfoundation.com He has massive
experimental data about subtle energy that can be replicated
in other labs. Goodluck dude.


wate

Thanks for many details. I shall try to understand. "subtle energy"
effects are very much experianced as interpreted by many but unless
these become measurable in science these may still result doubts,
skepticisms etc. Some "prime force of all four forces" exists or not is
yet to be measured/understood in science. It may be with "omni..."
properties, still described/indicated as indescribable to common people
so it may be beyond our capacity to understand its science. Anyway, we
should not leave hopes as science now is progressing at very fast rate
and few may be entitled to understand it.

"Be open minded. But not so open minded as to let the brain fall out
(they say)."

Good words. Something otherwise/abnormal happens, when we go far from
our brain's capacity in trying to understand such thing.So probably,
indescribable may mean beyond our capacity. I just consider, everything
may be a complex of such prime force, in different forms, shape,
concentrations etc. showing different properties due to
complexing/concentration at gross level, may not be at prime level.
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