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dwickford@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

I had a look at http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe I'm getting ahead of
myself.

Would you need four data stores, two in the phone, and two at the
exchange? The exchange, I take it, could be anywhere, like in the
middle of Australia. One store in the phone would be for transmission,
and one for receiving. Similarly for the exchange. Would you need to
consume this data at a constant rate? There would be no dial in
mechanism (CONNECT) I can see otherwise. Perhaps this could be less
that the rate used when connected.

I still can't see any way of it working with direct point to point
communication, but everything would have to go to an exchange.
Exchanges, could of course, be coupled by a L1 quantum technology.

Point to point communcation may work if you have a store pair for the
receiver.

The technology has advantages, like no reception problems, no
transmitter towers, (lower power & longer talk time?), but on the down
side transmissions couldn't be tapped (except at the exhange) or
located.

Maybe they should fund this as part of going to Mars to help ensure the
health of the people going.
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dwickford@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

dwickford@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
I had a look at http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe I'm getting ahead of
myself.

Would you need four data stores, two in the phone, and two at the
exchange? The exchange, I take it, could be anywhere, like in the
middle of Australia. One store in the phone would be for transmission,
and one for receiving. Similarly for the exchange. Would you need to
consume this data at a constant rate? There would be no dial in
mechanism (CONNECT) I can see otherwise. Perhaps this could be less
that the rate used when connected.
I should mention that 2 drives may be one physical drive (or store),

but split into two logical drives.
Quote:

I still can't see any way of it working with direct point to point
communication, but everything would have to go to an exchange.
Exchanges, could of course, be coupled by a L1 quantum technology.

Point to point communcation may work if you have a store pair for the
receiver.

The technology has advantages, like no reception problems, no
transmitter towers, (lower power & longer talk time?), but on the down
side transmissions couldn't be tapped (except at the exhange) or
located.
There shouldn't be any bandwidth limitations, and the military

advantages are numerous.
Quote:

Maybe they should fund this as part of going to Mars to help ensure the
health of the people going.
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Ben Rudiak-Gould
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

dwickford@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
I had a look at http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe I'm getting ahead of
myself.

They seem to be claiming communication via quantum entanglement. If so, it's
a scam.

-- Ben
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dwickford@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
Quote:
dwickford@yahoo.com wrote:
I had a look at http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe I'm getting ahead of
myself.

They seem to be claiming communication via quantum entanglement. If so, it's
a scam.

-- Ben
Thank you for the correction. Unfortunately I'm not intelligent enough

to move the theory forward, (making use of insignificant terms,
multiple states, multiple couplings, blending with string theory etc),
but surely there is something useful which can be sent using
entanglement like a key? (for basic XOR with a one-time random key
encryption.)
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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

Dear dwickford:

<dwickford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151718746.482540.14630@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
dwickford@yahoo.com wrote:
I had a look at
http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using
this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe
I'm getting ahead of myself.

They seem to be claiming communication via
quantum entanglement. If so, it's a scam.

but surely there is something useful which
can be sent using entanglement like a key?

No. That requires "communication via quantum entanglement".

David A. Smith
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dwickford@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
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Dear dwickford:

dwickford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151718746.482540.14630@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
dwickford@yahoo.com wrote:
I had a look at
http://colossalstorage.net/home_entangled.htm, and was
wondering how a network would work using
this technology.

If this site isn't based on fact, then maybe
I'm getting ahead of myself.

They seem to be claiming communication via
quantum entanglement. If so, it's a scam.

but surely there is something useful which
can be sent using entanglement like a key?

No. That requires "communication via quantum entanglement".

David A. Smith
The type of thing I was hoping for was like: Suppose you can have 4

quantum states in a particle, 0 to 3. Then to send info. from A to B
suppose you could weakly influence the particle (or a set) so that is
say less likely to be in state 3, but still retain some quantum
coupling to B. You could then measure B and with a set of these
measurements if one state was more or less likely then information
would have been transferred.
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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Functioning of a quantum network. Reply with quote

Dear dwickford:

<dwickford@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The type of thing I was hoping for was like: Suppose
you can have 4 quantum states in a particle, 0 to 3.

First problem. Number of available states is usually 2.

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Then to send info. from A to B

Second problem. Can only send info at c or less.

Quote:
suppose you could weakly influence the particle
(or a set) so that is say less likely to be in state 3,
but still retain some quantum coupling to B.

Third problem. "Affectation" breaks symmetry.

Quote:
You could then measure B and with a set of
these measurements if one state was more
or less likely then information would have
been transferred.

Nature does not so conspire. Sorry.

David A. Smith
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