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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

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======== Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups ==========

The sci.physics.* and alt.sci.physics.* newsgroups are
forums devoted to the discussion of physics and
physics-related topics.

The contributors to these newsgroups constitute a
diverse group of laypeople, students, engineers, and
other professionals in addition to professional
physicists. All are united by an interest in physics,
and all are welcome to contribute postings here.

The Physics Newsgroup FAQ is available from a number
of Web sites listed later in this welcome message.
Some of the more narrowly focused physics newsgroups
have their own FAQs, which are regularly posted in the
appropriate newsgroups. The Physics Newsgroup FAQ is
available only as a web document since it is too big
and uses images and equations that cannot be
transformed into text.

Some of the newsgroups have their charter residing in
the Faq archive. To read these, see
http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Administrivia/newsgroups.html

- Newsgroups for General Physics Discussions -

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to
the discussion of mainstream physics (except
relativity), news from the physics community, and
physics-related social issues.

sci.physics.relativity is an open forum for
discussions about the theory of relativity, from
elementary level to research level discussions,
from dissemination of new theoretical ideas to
speculative attacks on the foundations of
relativity. In general, threads in this group
should -not- be crossposted to sci.physics, unless
they involve quantum physics or grand unification
schemes that lie outside the topics suggested
above. The charter is held in the Newsgroup FAQ
(see above for url).

alt.sci.physics.new-theories is an open forum for
discussion of any topics related to conventional or
unconventional physics. In this context,
"unconventional physics" includes any ideas on
physical science, whether or not they are widely
accepted by the mainstream physics community.

sci.physics.research is a moderated newsgroup designed
to offer an environment with less traffic and more
opportunity for discussion of serious topics in
physics among experts and beginners alike. The
charter for this group is in the Newsgroup FAQ (see
above for url).

- Specialized Physics Newsgroups -

sci.physics.particle is an unmoderated newsgroup
dedicated to the discussion of all aspects of
particle physics by people with all levels of
expertise. The charter for this group may be read
in the Newsgroup FAQ (see above for url).

sci.physics.accelerators is an unmoderated
newsgroup for issues relating to particle
accelerators and the physics of beams. The charter
for this group is in the Newsgroup FAQ (see above
for url).

alt.sci.physics.acoustics is an unmoderated newsgroup
for issues relating to sound and acoustics. Its
FAQ and a set of informal rules are held in the
Newsgroup FAQ (see above for url).

sci.physics.cond-matter is an unmoderated newsgroup
dedicated to the discussion of the physics of
condensed matter. The charter for this group may
be read in the Newsgroup FAQ (see above for url).

sci.physics.computational.fluid-dynamics is an
unmoderated newsgroup for discussion of
computational fluid dynamics with a charter at the
Newsgroup FAQ (see above for url).

sci.physics.electromag is an unmoderated newsgroup with
its own FAQ dedicated to the discussion of topics
pertaining to electromagnetics. The FAQ and
charter are held in the Newsgroup FAQ (see above
for url).

sci.physics.fusion is an unmoderated newsgroup with its
own FAQ dedicated to the discussion of nuclear
fusion; refer to the Newsgroup FAQ (see above for
url).

sci.physics.plasma is a moderated newsgroup serving the
plasma science and technologies community. The
charter for this group may be read in the Newsgroup
FAQ (see above for url).

sci.physics.strings is a moderated newsgroup covering
whatever aspects of string theory that people want
to discuss. The charter for this group is at
http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~sps

There are several other alt.sci.physics.* groups.

- Other Languages -

de.sci.physik is the German language group for physics
discussions.

fj.sci.physics is the Japanese language group for
physics discussions.


================ Posting Guidelines ==================

- All Are Welcome -

We welcome contributions from newcomers, including
questions at all levels of expertise. However, we do
ask that "newbies" always check the FAQ (see the next
section) -before- posting any questions, because
experience has shown that chances are very good that a
very similar question is answered there. (The word FAQ
is, after all, an acronym for "Frequently Asked
Questions".)

"Wild and crazy ideas" are also acceptable in the
appropriate newsgroups, alt.sci.physics.new-theories
and sci.physics.relativity) but please be sure to check
the available FAQs before posting to avoid the
embarrassment of posting something based on a VCM (very
common misconception).


- Crossposting is Discouraged -

Cross-posting from one physics newsgroup to another
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almost always best to post a question in the one group
which seems best suited rather than cross-posting it to
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-sometimes- acceptable if it is limited to at most two
or three other newsgroups, in each of which the topic
is clearly acceptable and is not considered overly
speculative.

For example, discussions about black holes and
cosmology can be cross-posted to sci.astro, but
discussion of faster-than-light travel or the twin
paradox should be posted only to
sci.physics.relativity. Likewise, theories intended to
topple the Standard Model should be posted only to
alt.sci.physics.new-theories.


- Newsgroups Devoted to Speculative Physics -

Please note that sci.physics is -not- considered an
appropriate forum for the discussion of unconventional
physics.

The newsgroup specifically dedicated to the discussion
of "alternative" physics is
alt.sci.physics.new-theories, and is the appropriate
forum for discussion of physics ideas which are not
widely accepted by the physics community. The charter
for sci.physics.relativity also allows for speculative
subjects.


- Posting Netiquette -

If you are replying to another post, please be sure to
cut out all irrelevant text, and to make every effort
to ensure that it is clear who said what. It may be
advisable to lurk here for a while to see how
experienced posters accomplish this. Realise too that
if another poster has placed

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they are instructing well-behaved retrieval engines not
to archive the text. So please do likewise: don't copy
their message into yours.

While many people post through Google at
http://groups.google.com, be aware that Google only
archives messages: it doesn't display messages marked
as above for no archiving.

The most effective posts are concise, clearly
expressed, and focus on a very specific point. It is
always a good idea to re-read what you have written
(and to employ a spell-checker!) -before- posting your
message. It is also wise to make sure that your
subject line concisely and accurately describes the
content of the message.

Don't post textbook problems in the hope that someone
will do your homework for you. Do your own homework;
it's good for you. On the other hand, questions, even
about elementary physics, are always welcome. So if
you want to discuss the physics which is relevant to
your homework, feel free to do so. Be warned that you
may still have plenty of work to do, trying to figure
out which of the many answers you get are correct.

Your postings will be read by thousands of people so it
is worth taking a minute to read it back and check the
spelling, grammar and punctuation before posting. If
your browser has the capability, previewing your post
to check how it would actually look online is a wise
precaution.

- No Flames, Please! -

Be prepared for heated discussion. People have strong
opinions about the issues, and discussions can get a
little "loud" at times. Don't take it personally if
someone seems to always jump all over everything you
say. Everyone was jumping all over everybody long
before you got there! You can keep the discussion at a
low boil by trying to stick to the facts. Clearly
separate facts from opinion -- don't let people think
you are confusing your opinions with scientific truth.
And keep the focus of discussion on the ideas, not the
people who post them.

Tolerate everyone. People of many different points of
view, and widely varying educational backgrounds from
around the world participate in these newsgroups.
Respect for others will be returned in kind. Personal
criticism is usually not welcome.

Finally, it is important to always bear in mind that
some behavior is decidedly -unwelcome- at any time in
this newsgroup, including:

* spamming of any kind,
* cross-posting to large numbers of unrelated
newsgroups,
* posting on wildly irrelevant topics,
* repeated postings of identical messages,
* abusive flaming.

Bottom line: if you wouldn't say it in front of your
mother or your boss, please don't say it here.

If you respond to a message which is cross-posted to
irrelevant groups, please remove the other groups from
the Newsgroup line in the header of your response, or
use the Followup line in the header to direct further
followups to just one or two groups. Cross-posting is
-sometimes- acceptable if it is limited to at most two
or three other newsgroups, in each of which the topic
is clearly acceptable and is not considered overly
speculative. For example, discussions about black
holes and cosmology can be cross-posted to sci.astro,
but discussion of faster-than-light travel or the twin
paradox should be posted only to
sci.physics.relativity.


=== The Physics Newsgroup FAQ and Where to Find It ===

The Physics Newsgroup FAQ is available at a number of
web sites. You can obtain the FAQ at

Australia:
http://hermes.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq

Canada:
http://www.stillmoving.ca/physics/usenetFAQ.php

Germany:
http://www.desy.de/pub/www/projects/Physics

Netherlands:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/PhysFAQ

Taiwan:
http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/mirrors/physicsfaq

USA:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics
http://scope.joemirando.net/faqs
http://www.obscure.org/physics-faq
http://www.edu-observatory.org/physics-faq

The current editor of the Physics Newsgroup FAQ is Don
Koks, who may be reached by email at
username: dkoks
rest of address: physics.adelaide.edu.au

Note that I use spam-deleting software, so if an email
to me receives no reply in a few days, please try
sending it again with no html.


=================== Related FAQs =====================

There are many other places where you may find answers
to your questions. This is a partial list of other
FAQs and answer archives that are related to physics.
A more complete list may be found in the Physics
Newsgroup FAQ.

Frequently Asked Questions in Astronomy
http://sciastro.astronomy.net

Ask the Astronomer
http://itss.raytheon.com/cafe/qadir/qanda.html#top

Relativity on the World Wide Web
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/relativity.html

alt.sci.physics.acoustics FAQ
http://www.campanellaacoustics.com/faq.htm#basic

Sci/chem FAQ
http://isc.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq

Space
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/space

============= This Welcome Message ===================

This welcome message is periodically posted in some of
the sci.physics.* newsgroups. Currently, the welcome editor
is the same as the editor of the Physics Newsgroup FAQ,
Don Koks.

We hope that you will find your participation in these
groups to be enjoyable, informative, and productive!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:05:34 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com
(dlzc) wrote:

Quote:
The sci.physics.* and alt.sci.physics.* newsgroups are
forums devoted to the discussion of physics and
physics-related topics.

Don't be chicken. Say it! We're here not for the
subject of our discussions, but for what we were and
are and have been.

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AnAn bA mardom rAbeteye Alem va Ami, motekhasses
va gheyre-motekhasses ast, na moghaddas va
gheyre-moghaddas, motebarrek va gheyre-motebarrek,
rownAni va mAddi, morid va morAd!"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

Dear Math Freak:

"Math Freak" <MathFreak@FakeAddress.com> wrote in message
news:12zwo47c8kxfe.pqez9qj2ip0q.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:05:34 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com
(dlzc) wrote:

The sci.physics.* and alt.sci.physics.* newsgroups are
forums devoted to the discussion of physics and
physics-related topics.

Don't be chicken. Say it! We're here not for the
subject of our discussions, but for what we were and
are and have been.

*I* am not here for the past, but for the present and the future.
Discussion is what we do in the various heres... sometimes of the
entitled subject, sometimes of the history of the
poster/responders (aka. "gossip").

Experimental results are based in the past, true. But discussion
is here-and-now.

By the way, is that you Maleki? If so, "Hello".

David A. Smith
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:00:34 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com
(dlzc) wrote:

Quote:
The sci.physics.* and alt.sci.physics.* newsgroups are
forums devoted to the discussion of physics and
physics-related topics.

Don't be chicken. Say it! We're here not for the
subject of our discussions, but for what we were and
are and have been.

*I* am not here for the past, but for the present and the future.


I meant to say what makes this forum exist is not its
name and purpose, but the presence of a few posters who
have had some brush with physics in their lives. The
part that this forum itself plays is nothing more than
a hangout. A hangout cannot be for "physics". It can
only be "for those interested in physics".



Quote:
Discussion is what we do in the various heres... sometimes of the
entitled subject, sometimes of the history of the
poster/responders (aka. "gossip").

Experimental results are based in the past, true. But discussion
is here-and-now.

By the way, is that you Maleki? If so, "Hello".

Hi. Why, do you know me from somewhere?

--

"besmellAhe rahmAne rahim. alyowm este'mAle
tanbAku
va tutun, be'ayye nahwe kAwn, dar hokme mohArebeye
bA emAme zamAn salavAtollAhe va salAme alayheh
ast. mohammad hasan alhoseyni"

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

Dear Math Freak:

"Math Freak" <MathFreak@FakeAddress.com> wrote in message
news:1hh3vgr4yq9oe.w3ass2426iip.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:00:34 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com
(dlzc) wrote:

The sci.physics.* and alt.sci.physics.* newsgroups
are forums devoted to the discussion of physics and
physics-related topics.

Don't be chicken. Say it! We're here not for the
subject of our discussions, but for what we were and
are and have been.

*I* am not here for the past, but for the present and the
future.

I meant to say what makes this forum exist is not its
name and purpose,

That *is* what its charter states.

Quote:
but the presence of a few posters who
have had some brush with physics in their lives. The
part that this forum itself plays is nothing more than
a hangout. A hangout cannot be for "physics". It can
only be "for those interested in physics".

You describe some flavor of intended behavior. Presumably you
have read some of the threads here. It is obvious that not all
the people "hanging out" here are interested in physics.

Quote:
By the way, is that you Maleki? If so, "Hello".

Hi. Why, do you know me from somewhere?

We last "spoke" 2005apr03:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/adb1e978b2b37fb0

David A. Smith
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Welcome! to the Physics Newsgroups Reply with quote

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:28:12 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com
(dlzc) wrote:

Quote:
By the way, is that you Maleki? If so, "Hello".

Hi. Why, do you know me from somewhere?

We last "spoke" 2005apr03:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/adb1e978b2b37fb0

Oh then you didn't really need to ask did you Smile

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