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Richard Kanarek
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: MuPAD News Reply with quote

Greetings.

After a long absence, I recently visited www.mupad.com. Whilst there,
I discovered that they have introduced a new version of MuPAD (version
4). As I don't recall this fact being mentioned here, I thought I
would. If this is old news, I apologize for the wasted bandwidth.
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Jeremy Boden
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: MuPAD News Reply with quote

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 12:40 -0700, Vladimir Bondarenko wrote:
Quote:
Richard Kanarek writes:
....
Richard Kanarek wrote:
Greetings.

After a long absence, I recently visited www.mupad.com. Whilst there,
I discovered that they have introduced a new version of MuPAD (version
4). As I don't recall this fact being mentioned here, I thought I
would. If this is old news, I apologize for the wasted bandwidth.

I see that they don't provide a free version any more.

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Craig Carey
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: MuPAD News Reply with quote

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:00:29 -0400, Richard Kanarek
<FirstInitialLastName@Spamcop.net> wrote:

Quote:
Greetings.

After a long absence, I recently visited www.mupad.com. Whilst there,
I discovered that they have introduced a new version of MuPAD (version
4). As I don't recall this fact being mentioned here, I thought I
would. If this is old news, I apologize for the wasted bandwidth.



http://www.fuchssteiner.info/docus/fateofmupad/geschichte/incommunicado.html

[The full contents of the webpage. MuPad programmers are receive
threats
of being imprisoned.

Uh oh, lying about what German law is. Maybe this e-mail might provoke
the Russian to bother with any intelligent comment, eg. when posting in
completely worthless russian curtain poetry with a "tr" somewhere.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
Of course, I immediately informed the minister
http://www.fuchssteiner.info/docus/fateofmupad/geschichte/MuPADMinisterin12.2004.pdf
outside of the Dienstweg.
But soon after - as expected - I was informed by the ministry, that this
letter was sent back to the University, obviously because it was not
sent on the Dienstweg.

Like all other letters from the ministry, the letter from Januar 2005,
which contains this information, I did not get permission to publish
here.


Line of Reasoning:

Schreiben mit personenbezogenen Inhalten dürfen nicht mitgeteilt werden.

Uncommented Translation:

It is illegal to publish letters which contain personal data.

It a seems fascist legal line.

Also the translation is not so good, in using the word "data".

Google produced this translation:

"Letters with personal contents may not be communicated."

So data is smaller than information which itself gets less of the
document kept secret for the minister, than the idea "contents".


Here is the letter that went out to politician Kraft:

Quote:

B. Fuchssteiner • Fakultät EIM • Universität 33095 Paderborn
Frau MinisterinHannelore Kraft
Ministerium für
Wissenschaft und Forschung
Völklinger Straße 49
40221 Düsseldorf

Tel.: 05251-60-5521
Fax: 05251-60-5534
eMail: benno@fuchssteiner.de
Paderborn, 23.12.2004

Sehr geehrte Frau Ministerin Kraft!

Dear Mrs. minister Kraft!

On 20 August of this yearly I sent the letter on the official routine,
attached as plants 1 and 3, to you. My university asked me at that time
to be allowed to hold back this letter still some weeks in order to
discuss with me the letter at the basis lying state of affairs.
Unfortunately the state of affairs was then not discussed, but only
suggestions on the new formulation of my letter and the planned
announcement were made for me, suggestions, which I had to reject with
good reason with letters to the rector of 30.10.2004.

Today me the rector has - only on express demand explains that he did
not pass my letter on to you, and also do not plan this to pass on,
because I did not adhere to its formulation editions.

Me this attitude of my university, for whose reputation I worked in the
past hard and successfully, is unexplainable. [An] Insider explained to
me, which are delay of my letter to you only taken place, because the
university wants to prevent that perhaps your Ministry can make due to
this letter in uncomfortable way of its organization right with the goal
agreements which can be negotiated at present use, but I cannot give
faith to this explanation, since I cannot imagine that a university can
offend so lastingly against the own interests.

It may be that it is no longer possible due to the lost time, to a
solution of the problem acceptable for the country, which was
appropriate for my letter from the 20.8 to reason to come. They
understand however that I must decide now to write to you outside of the
official routine since I want the reproach to be made not to be able,
you to have not in time consulted. That I trouble you so briefly before
Christmas with this letter, please I to excuse, this has with the fact
to do that the rector explained to me yesterday that it was starting
from 1.1. 2005 my service superior, and I count therefore starting from
this time with each establishment of contact on your house on
Repressalien.

My letter of 30.10. I add likewise with (plant 4), since it in my eyes
important additional information contain, likewise the present form of
the planned announcement (for it however, plant 2 is perhaps anyway too
late).

Yours sincerely, your university Paderborn

Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Ihr

Universität Paderborn - Fakultät EIM - Mathematik - Pohlweg 98 - 33095
Paderborn - Germany


Some of the following events, an appeal to parliament are described
here:
http://www.fuchssteiner.info/docus/fateofmupad/geschichte/how.html

Quote:
A short account of how the MuPAD project at Paderborn University was
closed down.
....
In order to achieve that goal I also was willing to put a considerable
part of my family fortune in the new company. My initial intentions were
laid down in a paper
http://www.fuchssteiner.info/papers/86Euromath.pdf


that gives an outline of a purpose of Mupad. The date is 1992.

Quote:
- these have not changed much since then, however
the climate and the environment in which these intentions grew have
changed dramatically since then.
....


Quote:
What was the position of my University?

The reader of the lines above may ask, why I did not include here any
letters of the rector, the chancellor, the dean, the head of department,
because these certainly must exist in response to my very detailed
letters and lines of reasoning. The answer is: such letters do not
exist, there is no written document giving any indication of the
position of my University. In my nightmares it looked like someone was
out to destroy the MuPAD project and was very careful not to leave any
traces whatsoever.

There is however one letter of the rector from January 10, 2005 to my
lawyer, but I am certain that I am not permitted to publish this letter
here. Because for the case of publication of any document damaging to
the university the chancellor of my University threatened me with
serious legal repercussions, a thread I take very serious. However,
since it certainly is not illegal to publish my own letters, I append
here a document
http://www.fuchssteiner.info/docus/fateofmupad/geschichte/Plato22.8.05.pdf
from which the nature and the quality of my discussion
with the chancellor can be seen.

All documents which exist, are mentioned here explicitly, and if I have
permission to publish them, I will append them here. If any written
statement explaining the position of my university is available
thereafter, then I will gladly append it in the weeks to come.


The full contents of the last URL, ie. of the file "Plato22.8.05.pdf",
translated by google (Äußerungen -> ausserungen). Bits of the original
text remain.

I guess that this document is of value but it goes some way to
showing that Mr Fuchsteiner didn't realize how bad his Paderborn
university was.

If there is generalizing to other German universities, then smudgy
words be spoken against Passau university's REDLOG. I would not
mention Passau but their Internet department seems interesting.

Here's a photo of the Passau Chancellor
http://www.uni-passau.de/fileadmin/dokumente/Leitung/kanzler.jpg
http://www.uni-passau.de/597.html?&L=1
"Kanzler Ludwig Bloch Tel. 0851/509-1010".

(In case the 597.* changes, it can be found from the 2nd link of three,
named "Leitung & Organe Universitätsverwaltung", here:
http://www.uni-passau.de/leitung.html?&L=1 )

So some universities are bad eggs [I omit the question mark].

Back to Mr Fuchsteiner's comminications inside of the Paderborn
university:

PDF document (Title: Microsoft Word Plato22.8.05.doc, Created:
2005-09-23 05:28:37, Author: benno)

| AUTOMATH
| Universität Paderborn
| Fakultät für Elektrotechnik Informatik Mathematik
| Prof. Dr. Benno Fuchssteiner
| Institut für Automatisierung und
| Instrumentelle Mathematik
|
| B. Fuchssteiner • Fakultät EIM • Universität 33095 Paderborn
| An den Kanzler der
| Universität Paderborn
| J. Plato
| Tel.: 05251-60-5521
| Fax: 05251-60-5534
| eMail: benno@fuchssteiner.de
| Paderborn, 22.8.2005
|
| Betr.: „rechtliche Probleme“
|
| Sehr geehrter Herr Kanzler,
| Dear Mr. chancellor,
|
| I regret sincerely the fact that her my working, which gegenwartig only
| job highly-qualified around the safety device in Paderborn, and the
| prevention of unemployment fur the father of 13 children turns, when
| storend feels in such a way that you auserungen from me to it as “only
| s**t” dismiss.
|
| I regret sincerely the fact that her my working, which gegenwartig only
| job highly-qualified around the safety device in Paderborn, and the
| prevention of unemployment fur the father of 13 children turns, when
| storend feels in such a way that you dismiss outer run towards from me
| to it as “only s**t”.
|
| I am far however distant to ubersehen your auxiliary attempts in the
| past on the contrary, I recognize these gratefully on, because it was
| never your debt, if these remained unsuccessful usually.
|
| Their Ankundigung of legal problems fur me, I expect fearful. It cannot
| divert me however of that, which me appears necessary.
|
| That you the “argument around problem areas” with me as one in your eyes
| now ? icht logically thinking humans? fur keep unmoglich, meets me
| deeply. I might have objected however that the problem area was certain
| since last autumn that there were 25.10.2004 with you however since that
| no Gesprach more uber these problems, although you regarded me at that
| time probably still as logically thinking humans. Likewise there was
| since that 27.12.2005 no Gesprach and no Gesprachsversuch with any
| representative of the university, thus since the time in which became
| obvious that the university had decided, groundlessly and deliberately
| the correspondence between me and my direct service superior at that
| time too “suppress”, this without Erklarung or also only notification
| on the part of the university.
|
| That the university despite these Sprachlosigkeit, and completely
| obviously with your consent, to which minister gave a report on the
| situation, which brought these to it to state it a fande continuous
| tuning process with me, is more than precarious? also because thereby a
| member of the federal state government was instrumentalisiert. They will
| add themselves the situation occurred now let mussen. Not that you with
| the actions, which were the Rechtsverstandnis of many lofts, driving
| Kraft, directed against me, but who permit is jointly responsibly, in
| particular in a in such a way exposed function like the Ihrigen.
|
| I understand that the remark may have met you more uber your sense of
| justice compared with fruheren chancellor Hintze, more still however me
| met, this statement make to mussen. The remark should not ill, if it did
| it, then apologizes I, however was and is meant it serious.
|
| Let me this erklaren: A chancellor had to possess more fruher the
| Befahigung to the justiceship, which corresponded to the Amtsverstandnis
| the fact that a Universitatskanzler had to ensure in particular dafur
| that at a Universitat generally recognized legal maxim and in particular
| formal legal rules is kept. Thus also many office holders understood
| this office. My old-fashionable Verstandnis after, it is even the
| deliberate Unterdruckung of the correspondence between an official and
| its service superior a striking offence against the general
| Rechtsverstandnis (whether also against legal rules, still to clear will
| be). The fact that this offence is particularly heavily weighing, if by
| its effects unemployment of many engaged and qualified young humans is
| beige-driven, should be understanding each legally thinking humans.
|
| Does the fact that you mean "not-academic” style with this state of
| affairs", criticism surprise me much? we have a very different
| Verstandnis of the term “academically”.
|
| Like already said, your threat “if you things veroffentlichen, which are
| unfavorably fur the University of Paderborn or me personlich, have (!) a
| legal problem” angstigt me, and shows me that I well prepare should. In
| view of the real state of affairs I feel however straight also this
| threat as something that with the sense of justice one University
| chancellor to be contractual should not.
|
| This threat is not however first, which I received in this university,
| it is characterised however by a new directness, which makes fear for
| me.
|
| So that you konnen this letter, in your documents in the right context
| placing, I permit our email correspondence anzufugen myself.
|
| With friendly Grussen
| Mit freundlichen Grüßen
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Plant:
|
| Their mail of 21.8.2005 23:01
|
| Dear Mr. professor Fuchssteiner, They do straight times again something
| that made you always so popular in community, rhetorical climbing plays.
| With logically thinking humans commodity an argument around problem
| areas moglich. Unfortunately is obviously with you no longer moglich.
| Their letter is only “s**t”, after all the Unterstutzung, which received
| you from me. If you have things veroffentlichen, which are unfavorably
| fur the University of Paderborn or me personlich, you (!) a legal
| problem.
|
| Greeting PL
| Gruss PL
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| My mail from 21 August 2005 20:30
|
| Dear Mr. chancellor, I take to the knowledge that her my indignation
| against those Suppression of my letter to my direct Service before
| laws disappointed. Wrong does to me that I do not have your fine
| “akademsichen sense”. Former chancellor Hinze would not have gone
| through sowas, that had there more Gerchtigkeitsinn. Which concerns the
| nichtakdemische Auseindersetzung, then I am afraid that those begins
| only. I become with the publication of letters on that Internet mark
| that your permission is not present.
|
| Greeting Fu
| Gruss Fu
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Their mail of 21.08.2005 16:09
|
| Dear Mr. Professor Fuchssteiner, the result of your Bemuhungen does
| wrong, it to me lay however surely not to the fact that the university
| line did not correspond to your demand request in 2004. Nevertheless I
| can understand your Enttauschung. Enttauscht was I however also more
| uber your “not-academic” legal argument with the rector. Before this
| experience I give for none of your inquiries a use permission fur any
| discussions or letters, to etc.
|
| With best greeting
| Jurgen Plato
| Mit bestem Gruss
| Jurgen Plato
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Their mail from 18 August 2005 17:18
|
| Dear Mr. chancellor, today I had to open research group and the
| employee of the company Sciface to the coworkers of the MuPAD that they
| will lose to 31.12. the yearly your places. Thus the fathers of 13
| children become unemployed. In the context of this development we
| become already in the next 2 weeks our promotion contributions the
| project Intel Foundation brought by the federation and the countries
| also into being: “Theories for the future - on-line train and together
| learn” quit mssen.
|
| I am guilty of the international user municipality of MuPAD account over
| the fact that we give straight in the moment, where we won the technical
| Fuehrerschaft in very innovative Entwicklungsund research range our
| goals up must. I become therefore over the Bemhungen and contributions
| causing the ruin one the former Presenting projects of the country
| North-Rhine/Westphalia an Internet documentation present.
|
| I please you around permission for mentioning on the one hand between us
| to 11.10 2004 led discussion in this documentation may.
|
| On the other hand I take the liberty the inquiry whether the answers of
| the minister at the basis lying evaluations of the university opposite
| the regional adviser, the one the truth pretended not appropriate
| maintained sequential negotiation between me and the university, ran
| over your desk.
|
| With best greeting B.F.
| Mit bestem Gruss B. F.
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I developed some bug reports notes for MuPad. I assumed that MuPad
would have troubled years. The notes are petty, about the GUI.
Also the Maple GUI is bad.


On behalf of Herr and ever adverse the noisy Ukrainain:

Kanzler Ludwig Bloch

Unseen, not unfair (black in the national flag).



Craig Carey, Auckland, New Zealand
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: MuPAD News Reply with quote

And MuPad is only "348,00 [Euros] (incl. 16% VAT)":
https://www.mupad.org/shop/products.php/cPath/20
That "348" equates to approximately: 3266 French Francs
( http://www2.travlang.com/money/money.cgi?curr1=EUR&curr2=FRF )
239.59 UK Pounds, US$435.82

Now SciFace has begun forging bonds with the Kassel university:

http://www.sciface.com/news/?show=kassel

| Cooperation with the University of Kassel
....

What a horrible website Kassel university has got. Contrast with
Paris-Sud...

| SciFace Software [GmbH & Co. KG, Technologiepark 11, D-33100
| Paderborn, Deutschland] and the research group for Computational
| Mathematics of the University of Kassel, Germany, are starting a
| tight cooperation for further development of MuPAD Pro
....
| Headed by Prof. W. Koepf ... the scientists from Kassel will bring
| in their expertise

http://www.mathematik.uni-kassel.de/~koepf/iiforschproj.html
"hypergeometrischen Summation und Integration, angepaßt an Maple 9".
http://www.mathematik.uni-kassel.de/~koepf/indexenglish.html
....
| Following cooperations with the University of Göttingen, the
| Université Paris-Sud 11 and others, SciFace Software continues to
| extend its developers network, moving developing tasks from the
| University of Paderborn to other locations both inside as well as
| ousi[d]e of Germany.

The quantity of German university chancellors seems on the rise. Let
me make a list:

(1) Kassel university's chancellor:
"Dr. jur. Hans Gädeke, Kanzler":

http://cms.uni-kassel.de/uploads/pics/Gaedeke.gif (a little photo)
http://cms.uni-kassel.de/index.php?id=574 (chancellor's webpage)
http://cms.uni-kassel.de/index.php?id=hs-ltg (referring webpage).

(2) The Padeborn university chancellor
Mr Jürgen Plato (kanzler@zv.uni-paderborn.de)
http://www.uni-paderborn.de/rektorat/images/plato.jpg
http://www.uni-paderborn.de/rektorat/

Also a mere trace of information on Paderborn university Mr Rektor,
Mr Nikolaus Risch.

Of Paderborn, SciFace said they are leaving:
"[and] moving developing tasks from the University of
Paderborn to other locations".

(3) Paris-Sud university: http://www.u-psud.fr/

It seems to me that the corresponding person to Mr Plato is:
Mr Jean-Pierre Leclère (Secrétaire Général de l'Université):
http://www.u-psud.fr/ja.nsf/administration2.htm!OpenPage

An image map of how power is layered, at the top of the university:
http://www.u-psud.fr/ja.nsf/organigramme.htm!OpenPage

A photo of the president:
http://www.u-psud.fr/ja.nsf/enbref.htm!OpenPage

I doubt that Paris-Sud university could tolerate the undemocratic
style of these German universities that SciFace prefers.

Also Paris-Sud seems to have little interest in symbolic algebra
and no record of any mentional interest in SciFace and their
Mupad: I did a search on "sciface" at the Orsay mathematics
laboratory:

http://www.math.u-psud.fr/

Germans at SciFace were claiming to associate with Paris-Sud and
the Paris-Sud website is consistent with French having rejected
the GMBH in all contacts, in addition to deeply lacking interest.

Nor is Kassel's pages good adverts: again no mention of SciFace,
and he much prefers Maple and also uses REDUCE.

http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~geo/saga.html
Quote:
"Séminaire *exceptionnel* Arithmétique et Géométrie Algébrique
Conférencier: ...
Logarithmic nonabelian Hodge theory, Vendredi 07/04/2006

(That date is Friday 6 April 2006: Roman Venus not Freyja:
http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/roman/daysweek.htm )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: MuPAD News Reply with quote

Greetings,

True, SciFace doesn't seem to provide a free-for-non-commercial-use
version of MuPAD any longer, but they do offer a reduced cost
"individual" license. Personally, I prefer the idea of the
"individual" license option: not only does it help support the
development of the program, but it also helps to support my pride. <g>
Although they do value my pride rather highly, judging by the
individual license's price. <g>



On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 01:20:08 +0100, Jeremy Boden
<jeremy@jboden.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 12:40 -0700, Vladimir Bondarenko wrote:
Richard Kanarek writes:
...
Richard Kanarek wrote:
Greetings.

After a long absence, I recently visited www.mupad.com. Whilst there,
I discovered that they have introduced a new version of MuPAD (version
4). As I don't recall this fact being mentioned here, I thought I
would. If this is old news, I apologize for the wasted bandwidth.

I see that they don't provide a free version any more.
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