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John Baez
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

What's the easiest way to see a copy of Felix Klein's
speech in which he announced his "Erlanger Programm"?
Has it been translated into English? Is it available
online? If not, why the heck not???

The speech is called

Vergleichende Betrachtungen Uber Neuere Geometrische Forschungen

and he prepared it to give as his inaugral address on
becoming a faculty member of the University of Erlangen -
but for some reason he wound up giving not this speech
but another. Did he ever give this speech?

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G. A. Edgar
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

I found here
http://www.polybiblio.com/watbooks/2381.html
a first edition offered for BP 1550

Klein's own discussion of it is part 3 of his book
Elementary Mathematics from an Advanced Standpoint: Geometry
(translation by E. R. Hedrick) now available in a reprint from Dover

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Has it been translated into English?

I don't know if that book quotes the original or not.

Quote:
... If not, why the heck not???

At the time, it was axiomatic that any mathematician could read German.

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Matthias Klaey
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

baez@math.removethis.ucr.andthis.edu (John Baez) wrote:

Quote:

What's the easiest way to see a copy of Felix Klein's
speech in which he announced his "Erlanger Programm"?
Has it been translated into English? Is it available
online? If not, why the heck not???

The speech is called

Vergleichende Betrachtungen Uber Neuere Geometrische Forschungen

[...]

http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=umhistmath;idno=ABN7632

Google is your friend...

For more, see also, e.g.,

http://www.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/~rehmann/DML/dml_links_author_K.html

HTH
Matthias Kly
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Christian Ohn
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

John Baez wrote:

Quote:
What's the easiest way to see a copy of Felix Klein's
speech in which he announced his "Erlanger Programm"?
Has it been translated into English?

Yes, there is an English translation by Haskell: "A Comparative Review of
Recent Researches in Geometry", Bulletin of the New York Mathematical
Society, vol. 2 (1893).

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Christian Ohn
e-mail: firstname dot lastname at univ hyphen valenciennes dot fr
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analytic
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

On this topic, is there an an on-line english translation of Riemann's
Habilitationsvortrag anywhere?

(Okay, I know this is in Spivak, and there's a german version at
http://www.emis.de/classics/Riemann/ , but still: a translation would
be pretty nice).

John Baez wrote:
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What's the easiest way to see a copy of Felix Klein's
speech in which he announced his "Erlanger Programm"?
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Peter Luschny
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

Stephen Lavelle schrieb:

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On this topic, is there an an on-line english translation of Riemann's
Habilitationsvortrag anywhere?
(Okay, I know this is in Spivak, and there's a german version at
http://www.emis.de/classics/Riemann/ , but still: a translation would
be pretty nice).

Why? It is almost always better to read a paper in its
original form.

But look here:
http://www.maths.tcd.ie/pub/HistMath/People/Riemann/Geom/

It took Google 0,12 seconds to find it. I used Goggle.de.
But Google is available in English also.

Gre Peter
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proportional
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Erlanger Programm - online? Reply with quote

The complete works of Felix Klein can be read in the following library

http://gallica.bnf.fr

Make a search (Recherche) for "klein", and you'll find among others:

Gesammelte mathematische Abhandlungen. Dritter Band / Felix Klein
Gesammelte mathematische Abhandlungen. Erster Band / Felix Klein
Gesammelte mathematische Abhandlungen. Zweiter Band / Felix Klein

In "Erster Band" there is a whole chapter called "Zum Erlanger
Programm", where the document "Vergleichende Betrachtungen ber neuere
geometrische Forschungen" can be found. The whole book can even be
downloaded as a single PDF file (Tlcharger).

By the way, many classic mathematical books can be found in this
library. (For this time, thank you very much Franois Mitterrand !!).


John Baez wrote:
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What's the easiest way to see a copy of Felix Klein's
speech in which he announced his "Erlanger Programm"?
Has it been translated into English? Is it available
online? If not, why the heck not???

Why the heck not to leark German ? ;)

Regards
Moises Saez Beltran.
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