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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

ceramics@cof.com.au wrote:
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I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?

Pt's one of the platinum-rhodium thermocouples. Type B?

Jerry
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

Jerry Avins wrote:
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ceramics@cof.com.au wrote:

I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?


Pt's one of the platinum-rhodium thermocouples. Type B?

Jerry

Probably not. Google for PR 20-40. Pt-20% Ro vs. Pt-40% Ro?

Jerry
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:17:30 -0400, the renowned Jerry Avins
<jya@ieee.org> wrote:

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ceramics@cof.com.au wrote:
I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?

Pt's one of the platinum-rhodium thermocouples. Type B?

Jerry

Type B is Pt 6% Rh/ Pt 30% Rh. R and S have a pure Pt leg.

This is a more exotic type, without an ISA designation AFAIK.

I have a very old document (in German only) that shows the output of
this type at 1800°C as only about 4.5mV, and somewhat like B, rather
flat at the low end.


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Spehro Pefhany
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:17:30 -0400, the renowned Jerry Avins
jya@ieee.org> wrote:


ceramics@cof.com.au wrote:

I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?

Pt's one of the platinum-rhodium thermocouples. Type B?

Jerry


Type B is Pt 6% Rh/ Pt 30% Rh. R and S have a pure Pt leg.

This is a more exotic type, without an ISA designation AFAIK.

I have a very old document (in German only) that shows the output of
this type at 1800°C as only about 4.5mV, and somewhat like B, rather
flat at the low end.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

It's a standard, but not lettered pair. A line from
http://www.thermalinc.com/temp/products/pdf/ut320350tti.pdf:

Multiple inputs—thermocouple (K, J, T, B, S, R, N, E, L, U, W,
Platinel 2, PR20-40, W97Re3-W75Re25), ...

Jerry
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: exotic thermocouple Reply with quote

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:05:58 -0400, the renowned Jerry Avins
<jya@ieee.org> wrote:

Quote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:17:30 -0400, the renowned Jerry Avins
jya@ieee.org> wrote:


ceramics@cof.com.au wrote:

I have recently started to use an 1800 deg C kiln. It is equipped with
a thermocouple specified as a PR2040. Anyone know the mV vs.
temperature characteristic of this type of thermocouple?

Pt's one of the platinum-rhodium thermocouples. Type B?

Jerry


Type B is Pt 6% Rh/ Pt 30% Rh. R and S have a pure Pt leg.

This is a more exotic type, without an ISA designation AFAIK.

I have a very old document (in German only) that shows the output of
this type at 1800°C as only about 4.5mV, and somewhat like B, rather
flat at the low end.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

It's a standard, but not lettered pair. A line from
http://www.thermalinc.com/temp/products/pdf/ut320350tti.pdf:

Multiple inputs—thermocouple (K, J, T, B, S, R, N, E, L, U, W,
Platinel 2, PR20-40, W97Re3-W75Re25), ...

Jerry

Yes, and it seems to be mostly or entirely supported by Japanese
instruments.

Anyone have a pointer to modern tables or equations for this type?



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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