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y' = (x + y - 1)^2 .....help
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zip@zip.com
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: y' = (x + y - 1)^2 .....help Reply with quote

Task is to solve following differential equation problem with proper
substituion which is NOT given

y' = (x + y - 1)^2


if it's not problem please comment it...
tnx
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William Elliot
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: y' = (x + y - 1)^2 .....help Reply with quote

On Sun, 29 May 2005, zip@zip.com wrote:

Quote:
Task is to solve following differential equation problem with proper
substitution which is NOT given

Oh you poor dear, having to find a substitution by yourself with no

more than just your intuition, creative insight and trial and error.

Quote:
y' = (x + y - 1)^2
if it's not problem please comment it...

It is a problem and the problem is to find the substitution.
My first attempt was u = y - 1, which wasn't satisfactory.

My second attempt was, ... but don't let me spoil your fun.
What substitutions have you tried and with what results?
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Jim Spriggs
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: y' = (x + y - 1)^2 .....help Reply with quote

"zip@zip.com" wrote:
Quote:

Task is to solve following differential equation problem with proper
substituion which is NOT given

y' = (x + y - 1)^2

if it's not problem please comment it...
tnx

Put
u = x + y - 1

(the plan is simple: get rid of the least pleasant parts of the original
DE)
then
u' = y'.

The DE becomes

u' = u^2

int u^{-2} du = int dx

-u^{-1} = x - C

u = (C - x)^{-1}

x + y - 1 = (C - x)^{-1}

y = 1 - x + (C - x)^{-1}.
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Jim Spriggs
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: y' = (x + y - 1)^2 .....help Reply with quote

Jim Spriggs wrote:
Quote:

"zip@zip.com" wrote:

Task is to solve following differential equation problem with proper
substituion which is NOT given

y' = (x + y - 1)^2

if it's not problem please comment it...
tnx

Put
u = x + y - 1

(the plan is simple: get rid of the least pleasant parts of the original
DE)
then
u' = y'.

Should be

u' = 1 + y'
etc.
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