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Sorcerer1
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

<surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1152893632.575024.35560@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|
| > ... Mathematics has theorems,
| > not theories. Perhaps I should explain that to you, but I expect you
| > do some homework for yourself.
|
| Then what about group theory, matrix theory, ring theory, field theory,
| or the theory of complex and real numbers? So, yeah, go right ahead and
| explain it to us.

Which one? Whose? There is no such animal as "group theory".
There are sets and operators between members of that set that form
members of the same set, but there is no "theory", that is definition of a
group
with its 4 axioms. Or perhaps you call definitions "theories". I do not.


Speaking of which, the cuckoo transformations are not a group, time is not a
vector. It has no additive inverse.


|
| > Einstein was a fucking LIAR and Pentcho is justified in castigating him
| > publicly, along with his shithead disciples.
|
| Except 1) Valev missed the mark this time.

No he did not, he scored a bullseye.


| Experiment cannot
| distinguish between the interpretations of empirically equivalent
| theories. And 2) this is a relativity NG, not an Einstein NG. This NG
| is not for ad hominem arguments.

You should tell that to the majority of its contributors, including
surrealistic-dream.
The term "relativity" specifically refers to the blunders of Einstein.
If I mean Galilean relativity then I say that, otherwise the majority
refer to relativity as Einstein's relativity.
Experiment distinguishes between a stick in water appearing bent
and light being bent, that is why the experiment is conducted. so you
are fucking WRONG.
Androcles.
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Helmut Wabnig
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:55:56 +0100, T Wake
<Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


Quote:

Androcles shows his sharp wit and excellent debating skills. He makes me
proud to be British.

Saucerer has no clue about relativity,
therefore he makes you proud to be British?


w.
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surrealistic-dream@hotmai
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

Sorcerer wrote:
Quote:
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152979402.597806.137150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1152893632.575024.35560@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|
| > ... Mathematics has theorems,
| > not theories. Perhaps I should explain that to you, but I expect you
| > do some homework for yourself.
|
| Then what about group theory, matrix theory, ring theory, field theory,
| or the theory of complex and real numbers? So, yeah, go right ahead and
| explain it to us.

Which one? Whose? There is no such animal as "group theory".

Do a Google search on "group theory". I didn't make this up,
mathematicians did. Perhaps they reasoned it by using this definition
of theory or something close to it:
"a supposition or system of ideas explaining something, especially one
based on general principles independent on the particular things to be
explained" (Oxford Canadian Dictionary). The axioms of the theory
constitute the general principles on which deductions are made.

There is also set theory, tensor theory, and number theory. Look 'em up
in Google if you don't believe me.

Quote:
| Experiment cannot
| distinguish between the interpretations of empirically equivalent
| theories. And 2) this is a relativity NG, not an Einstein NG. This NG
| is not for ad hominem arguments.

You should tell that to the majority of its contributors, including
surrealistic-dream.

Einstein's personal life is not the content of the theory of
relativity.
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Dirk Van de moortel
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

"Helmut Wabnig" <...._.--_.-_-..._-._.._--.@.-_---_-._*_.-_-> wrote in message news:14oib29837j3ocgbbc1a8napvdvpkr7oo2@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:55:56 +0100, T Wake
Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> wrote:



Androcles shows his sharp wit and excellent debating skills. He makes me
proud to be British.

Saucerer has no clue about relativity,
therefore he makes you proud to be British?

Yes, that puzzled me as well.
One can't be more British than Parker, can one?

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Dirk Van de moortel
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

<surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1153000267.655795.91180@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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Sorcerer wrote:
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152979402.597806.137150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1152893632.575024.35560@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|
| > ... Mathematics has theorems,
| > not theories. Perhaps I should explain that to you, but I expect you
| > do some homework for yourself.
|
| Then what about group theory, matrix theory, ring theory, field theory,
| or the theory of complex and real numbers? So, yeah, go right ahead and
| explain it to us.

Which one? Whose? There is no such animal as "group theory".

Do a Google search on "group theory".

Smile
Ask him to do a Google search on:
Boolean algebra:
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integrals:
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geometry:
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transformations:
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calculations:
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groups:
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logs:
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vectors:
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limits:
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equations:
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square roots:
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partial differential equations:
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T Wake
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

"Helmut Wabnig" <...._.--_.-_-..._-._.._--.@.-_---_-._*_.-_-> wrote in
message news:14oib29837j3ocgbbc1a8napvdvpkr7oo2@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:55:56 +0100, T Wake
Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> wrote:



Androcles shows his sharp wit and excellent debating skills. He makes me
proud to be British.

Saucerer has no clue about relativity,
therefore he makes you proud to be British?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm - obviously it doesn't carry across
well over text.

As Androcles has neither a sharp wit, nor any form of debating skills
(resorting to insults and abuse at every possible junction) I had thought
the tone would have been obvious.

Sorry for not making it clearer.
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Edward Green
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Quote:
In article <130720062153376336%phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM>, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> writes:
In article <8MadnTxYqPtVFivZRVnysw@pipex.net>, T Wake
Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

Seriously, we [tinw] are all agreed that the likes of [Hammond] are just
insane, but Androcles takes it to a new level.

I plonked him ages ago. There's idiots, then there's bigoted idiots,
then there's Androcles - on a level of stupidity unparalled.

Well, that's a big claim. The competition for the title of Usenet's
Top Idiot is intense, with lots of prime candidates in the running.
True, androcles may appear in the lead right now, but that's partly
because some of his top competitors appear to be taking a break. The
race is far from over.

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Sorcerer1
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

<surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1152979402.597806.137150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1152893632.575024.35560@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > <surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > |
| > | > ... Mathematics has theorems,
| > | > not theories. Perhaps I should explain that to you, but I expect you
| > | > do some homework for yourself.
| > |
| > | Then what about group theory, matrix theory, ring theory, field
theory,
| > | or the theory of complex and real numbers? So, yeah, go right ahead
and
| > | explain it to us.
| >
| > Which one? Whose? There is no such animal as "group theory".
|
| Do a Google search on "group theory".

I have you explanation. You snipped. I cannot debate wth a bigot who
insists on keeping his head up his arse so that he doesn't have to see it.
Now I snip you.
*plonk*


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: EINSTEIN'S SIN Reply with quote

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
Quote:
In article <130720062245162280%phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM>, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> writes:
In article <H1ztg.32$45.1783@news.uchicago.edu>,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote:

Well, that's a big claim. The competition for the title of Usenet's
Top Idiot is intense, with lots of prime candidates in the running.
True, androcles may appear in the lead right now, but that's partly
because some of his top competitors appear to be taking a break. The
race is far from over.

Indeed. Unlike most sporting events (World Cup/Olympics etc) this is
one event that just keeps on delivering ;-)

Well, freak shows were popular since antiquity, so there is a
distinguished tradition behind this event.

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:%kztg.34$45.1747@news.uchicago.edu...
Quote:
In article <130720062245162280%phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM>,
Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com_NOSPAM> writes:
In article <H1ztg.32$45.1783@news.uchicago.edu>,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote:

Well, that's a big claim. The competition for the title of Usenet's
Top Idiot is intense, with lots of prime candidates in the running.
True, androcles may appear in the lead right now, but that's partly
because some of his top competitors appear to be taking a break. The
race is far from over.

Indeed. Unlike most sporting events (World Cup/Olympics etc) this is
one event that just keeps on delivering ;-)

Well, freak shows were popular since antiquity, so there is a
distinguished tradition behind this event.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"

Mati Meron makes a good point!

The General Relativity "Freak Show"
that wastes an emormous amount of time, money and minds
on such diversions as worm holes, time travel, rubber spaces and times,

gravitons, etc. is very "popular".

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Don't waste your mind.
Stay away from the "Freak Shows".

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